From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: <gentoo-mips+bounces-467-garchives=archives.gentoo.org@lists.gentoo.org> Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A973F1381FA for <garchives@archives.gentoo.org>; Wed, 7 May 2014 07:22:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 18332E09C1; Wed, 7 May 2014 07:22:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from qmta02.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta02.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.24]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88F62E09C1 for <gentoo-mips@lists.gentoo.org>; Wed, 7 May 2014 07:22:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from omta11.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.36]) by qmta02.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id yvMz1n0010mv7h051vNool; Wed, 07 May 2014 07:22:48 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.13] ([50.190.84.14]) by omta11.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id yvNn1n00A0JZ7Re3XvNo9k; Wed, 07 May 2014 07:22:48 +0000 Message-ID: <5369DF3E.6050301@gentoo.org> Date: Wed, 07 May 2014 03:22:38 -0400 From: Joshua Kinard <kumba@gentoo.org> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.4.0 Precedence: bulk List-Post: <mailto:gentoo-mips@lists.gentoo.org> List-Help: <mailto:gentoo-mips+help@lists.gentoo.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:gentoo-mips+unsubscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:gentoo-mips+subscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail <gentoo-mips.gentoo.org> X-BeenThere: gentoo-mips@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-mips@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-mips@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-mips] Reducing the number of the MIPS supported stages References: <53679ACC.3000809@gentoo.org> <CAEdQ38FXwAdL-61br_haW-XvGP2Zv9+Q4L2qzQ1fykM7kOfftw@mail.gmail.com> <53680A7E.9000209@gentoo.org> <CAEdQ38FWiYkmV6GUxKsOLKSOZw8EPiSQFR8bkh-z6j2txmu7+g@mail.gmail.com> <53682856.5040005@gentoo.org> <53688A17.2070509@gentoo.org> <536898F6.7060404@gentoo.org> <536920DD.3080608@gentoo.org> <53695612.40808@gentoo.org> <5369DB62.2080607@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: <5369DB62.2080607@gentoo.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=comcast.net; s=q20140121; t=1399447368; bh=+7edMx6EeawP+L2BkVYXXtSopeXf3yfcA8nHV903SAo=; h=Received:Received:Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:Subject: Content-Type; b=Z4mhWalCIE5LDeRKWAVZgcHBWvCA1Fnn3gmJ26AZ3GtU6uHqYAx85tdVoVi6oPdqC tBZJGPk2o5jJS2Svwvv13HJ6A0I9GAIf93WXWQlw1YzzbtRIOlDxRigKv8E0kcZOOO C9oByP+ozqHg3UuOQErt+fKaedeQfcrQ36z6hLp+AE1o2yEEodZx32KdkH4Q/DJUka CitgKW+jX+rCk3Z4Xo4+nqOyYHLIuHk3rp6SeanJBszK8HoUCAZWvu8wt2PNMMOHIj JBu6692OjcermsiFsB5sLyN+cvJfzL3mz9osSiyABqooOV3B6u0C/Z1dIZdoLcE5yb ZduE0DpnAu9Aw== X-Archives-Salt: 4e04af53-52cf-4cf4-9230-1268c29c1ed0 X-Archives-Hash: 9e07f2475c0f9c70d845444c300f1409 On 05/07/2014 03:06, Markos Chandras wrote: > > There are usually blockers and stuff due to MIPS being ~arch but > catalyst, as a tool, works fine. > > The livecd stages and netboots, however, were much more >> problematic. > > I don't think we do that anymore Haven't in a *long* time. However, it's been on my todo list for a good while now. The thing that killed netboots was the great uclibc break several years ago where a chicken-and-egg scenario arose. To compile from uclibc-0.9.27 to .28, you needed ~gcc-4.4 (I think, maybe it was 3.4...). However, you couldn't compile the required version of gcc, linked against uclibc, without the .28 version. So that broke a *lot* of people. I have no idea how that was eventually resolved, but without uclibc, netboots at the time were just too massive for the SGI Indy's to boot. You'd get a "Not enough space in a FreeMemeoryArea() from ARCS. Though...nowadays, I think that ARCS error has something to do with byte alignment and not size. Seems if you compile things in or out of the kernel to increase or decrease its size, you can get a size that ARCS will be happy with. LiveCDs, OTOH...I do not look forward to even attempting those. The two SGI LiveCDs I produced used Gnome GDM, which was possible without sucking in half of Gnome back then, which is not possible today, as far as I know. I don't know what's a good login manager these days, but it might be back to classic XDM if I do attempt the things. >> If you can still send me at least one of your stage3 spec files, that'd be >> appreciated. It's been 5-6 years since I last messed with catalyst. The >> Octane was my build platform, but combined with the bitrot that prevented it >> from booting, moving, a new job, etc, I never got around to setting up stage >> building on the O2. Now that I can boot Octane again, I can at least >> recover my old spec files, though. Might help if I ever attempt to tackle >> the livecd or netboot builds again. > > I will email you a complete set of stage1/2/3 for, say, mips3 and then > it's easy to figure out what do change for the rest :) </smirk> -- Joshua Kinard Gentoo/MIPS kumba@gentoo.org 4096R/D25D95E3 2011-03-28 "The past tempts us, the present confuses us, the future frightens us. And our lives slip away, moment by moment, lost in that vast, terrible in-between." --Emperor Turhan, Centauri Republic