From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14A011381FA for ; Tue, 6 May 2014 17:41:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8E601E0830; Tue, 6 May 2014 17:41:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 126BAE0830 for ; Tue, 6 May 2014 17:41:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.2] (0545b819.skybroadband.com [5.69.184.25]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: hwoarang) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 0A42C33F2BF for ; Tue, 6 May 2014 17:41:36 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <53691E70.3050101@gentoo.org> Date: Tue, 06 May 2014 18:40:00 +0100 From: Markos Chandras User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.5.0 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-mips@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-mips@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-mips@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-mips] Reducing the number of the MIPS supported stages References: <53679ACC.3000809@gentoo.org> <53680A7E.9000209@gentoo.org> <53682856.5040005@gentoo.org> <53688A17.2070509@gentoo.org> <5368C856.3010602@opensource.dyc.edu> In-Reply-To: <5368C856.3010602@opensource.dyc.edu> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 6778efe3-1576-4a0f-842a-bde767c6cad4 X-Archives-Hash: b36095be2ef938568f38c9591484e156 On 05/06/2014 12:32 PM, Anthony G. Basile wrote: > On 05/06/2014 03:07 AM, Markos Chandras wrote: >> On 05/06/2014 01:09 AM, Joshua Kinard wrote: >>> On 05/05/2014 19:36, Matt Turner wrote: >>>> On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 3:02 PM, Joshua Kinard wrote: >>>>> I cannot speak for anything outside of the standard/original MIPS >>>>> ISAs, but >>>>> I thought we killed off mips1 long ago. When did that come back? >>>>> Almost >>>>> anything out there should be able to handle mips2 at a bare minimum >>>>> (only >>>>> R2000 and R3000-based systems, like certain DECStations, would need >>>>> mips1). >>>>> mips2 is also the branch point for the mips32r* ISAs, so if any >>>>> of the >>>>> original, 32-bit ISAs should be kept, that would be mips2. mips1 >>>>> can go. >>>> >>>> We've had this discussion before. If you're going to have >mips2 >>>> stages, then there's zero reason to have mips2 stages since mips2 >>>> effectively doesn't exist. >>> >>> It's been a while, but I thought we only kept a mips2 stage1 around for >>> those that wanted a baseline to build their own stage2 or stage3's from. >>> You can do this with a mips1 as well, but mips2 is, more or less, the >>> baseline from which all other possible ISAs and stages can be built >>> from, as >>> long as you don't care about R2k or R3k CPUs. stage3's can be the >>> higher >>> mips32r* ISAs. >>> >>> I personally don't see a point in having mips1 or mips2 stage3's, only a >>> stage1 to use as a bootstrap for new machines or ISAs. >>> >> >> (picking up a random thread) >> >> Ok thanks for the replies. >> >> Ok I think it's safe to proceed with the following: >> - Stop mips1 builds (we don't have mips2) >> - Reduce the frequency to once-a-year for mips3 and mips4. Updating >> these stages every year with catalyst will be a lot of fun ;) >> >> @kumba: You mentioned too many times that I wanted to "drop" support for >> mips3 and mips4. I never said that (I am sort-of tired keep repeating >> that). All I said (again) was to reduce the frequency or stop building >> them at all. Users can still get an existing mips3/mips4 stage3 and >> update themselves >> > > mipsel3 is used for the lemote. Are you sure we should drop it? > No, I can still do that. -- Regards, Markos Chandras