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From: Markos Chandras <hwoarang@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-mips@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-mips] Reducing the number of the MIPS supported stages
Date: Tue, 06 May 2014 18:40:00 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <53691E70.3050101@gentoo.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5368C856.3010602@opensource.dyc.edu>

On 05/06/2014 12:32 PM, Anthony G. Basile wrote:
> On 05/06/2014 03:07 AM, Markos Chandras wrote:
>> On 05/06/2014 01:09 AM, Joshua Kinard wrote:
>>> On 05/05/2014 19:36, Matt Turner wrote:
>>>> On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 3:02 PM, Joshua Kinard <kumba@gentoo.org> wrote:
>>>>> I cannot speak for anything outside of the standard/original MIPS
>>>>> ISAs, but
>>>>> I thought we killed off mips1 long ago.  When did that come back? 
>>>>> Almost
>>>>> anything out there should be able to handle mips2 at a bare minimum
>>>>> (only
>>>>> R2000 and R3000-based systems, like certain DECStations, would need
>>>>> mips1).
>>>>>   mips2 is also the branch point for the mips32r* ISAs, so if any
>>>>> of the
>>>>> original, 32-bit ISAs should be kept, that would be mips2.  mips1
>>>>> can go.
>>>>
>>>> We've had this discussion before. If you're going to have >mips2
>>>> stages, then there's zero reason to have mips2 stages since mips2
>>>> effectively doesn't exist.
>>>
>>> It's been a while, but I thought we only kept a mips2 stage1 around for
>>> those that wanted a baseline to build their own stage2 or stage3's from.
>>> You can do this with a mips1 as well, but mips2 is, more or less, the
>>> baseline from which all other possible ISAs and stages can be built
>>> from, as
>>> long as you don't care about R2k or R3k CPUs.  stage3's can be the
>>> higher
>>> mips32r* ISAs.
>>>
>>> I personally don't see a point in having mips1 or mips2 stage3's, only a
>>> stage1 to use as a bootstrap for new machines or ISAs.
>>>
>>
>> (picking up a random thread)
>>
>> Ok thanks for the replies.
>>
>> Ok I think it's safe to proceed with the following:
>> - Stop mips1 builds (we don't have mips2)
>> - Reduce the frequency to once-a-year for mips3 and mips4. Updating
>> these stages every year with catalyst will be a lot of fun ;)
>>
>> @kumba: You mentioned too many times that I wanted to "drop" support for
>> mips3 and mips4. I never said that (I am sort-of tired keep repeating
>> that). All I said (again) was to reduce the frequency or stop building
>> them at all. Users can still get an existing mips3/mips4 stage3 and
>> update themselves
>>
> 
> mipsel3 is used for the lemote.  Are you sure we should drop it?
> 

No, I can still do that.

-- 
Regards,
Markos Chandras


  reply	other threads:[~2014-05-06 17:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-05-05 14:06 [gentoo-mips] Reducing the number of the MIPS supported stages Markos Chandras
2014-05-05 17:04 ` Panagiotis Christopoulos
2014-05-05 17:17   ` Markos Chandras
2014-05-05 17:13 ` Justin Cormack
2014-05-05 17:16   ` Markos Chandras
2014-05-05 17:22 ` Matt Turner
2014-05-05 17:29   ` Markos Chandras
2014-05-05 23:34     ` Matt Turner
2014-05-05 22:02   ` Joshua Kinard
2014-05-05 23:30     ` Matt Turner
2014-05-06  0:15       ` Joshua Kinard
2014-05-05 23:36     ` Matt Turner
2014-05-06  0:09       ` Joshua Kinard
2014-05-06  7:07         ` Markos Chandras
2014-05-06  8:10           ` Joshua Kinard
2014-05-06 17:50             ` Markos Chandras
2014-05-06 21:37               ` Joshua Kinard
2014-05-07  7:06                 ` Markos Chandras
2014-05-07  7:22                   ` Joshua Kinard
2014-05-06 11:32           ` Anthony G. Basile
2014-05-06 17:40             ` Markos Chandras [this message]
2014-05-05 19:19 ` [gentoo-mips] " Anthony G. Basile
2014-05-05 19:33   ` Markos Chandras

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