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From: Joshua Kinard <kumba@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-mips@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-mips] Reducing the number of the MIPS supported stages
Date: Mon, 05 May 2014 18:02:38 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <53680A7E.9000209@gentoo.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAEdQ38FXwAdL-61br_haW-XvGP2Zv9+Q4L2qzQ1fykM7kOfftw@mail.gmail.com>

On 05/05/2014 13:22, Matt Turner wrote:
> On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 7:06 AM, Markos Chandras <hwoarang@gentoo.org> wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Right now the number of stages for each endianness is 8:
>>
>> - mips1
>> - mips32
>> - mips32r2
> 
> Do we need r1 and r2 stages?
> 
> (Isn't r3 a thing now?)

I cannot speak for anything outside of the standard/original MIPS ISAs, but
I thought we killed off mips1 long ago.  When did that come back?  Almost
anything out there should be able to handle mips2 at a bare minimum (only
R2000 and R3000-based systems, like certain DECStations, would need mips1).
 mips2 is also the branch point for the mips32r* ISAs, so if any of the
original, 32-bit ISAs should be kept, that would be mips2.  mips1 can go.


>> - mips3
>> - mips4
>> - mips4_r10
> 
> Big endian only.
> 

Seconded.  We still support SGI systems, which max out at the mips4 ISA.  If
we drop support for mips3, that will cut off any R4x00-based Indigo2 and
Indy systems, but I believe those to be fairly rare anyways (and the R4600
still has quirks about it that can pose challenges).

mips4 little-endian is only useful for the old Cobalt RaQ2 and Qube
hardware, which I don't think is reasonable anymore.  Modern gcc takes long
enough on an SGI system with a secondary cache -- the Cobalt's low-powered
RM5231 with no L2 would make 4.8 or 4.9 even more excruciating.  Max memory
there is 256MB of RAM, and I don't know if gcc-4.9 will build under that.

And I don't see a point in doing an R10K-specific mips4 build.  The standard
mips4 build is good enough, and users of R10K systems can rebuild to gain
the R10K enhancements if needed.

So, keep mips4 big-endian as a standard stage build, let's do a mips3
big-endian build maybe once or twice a year, and drop mips4 little-endian
and R10K mips4.

-- 
Joshua Kinard
Gentoo/MIPS
kumba@gentoo.org
4096R/D25D95E3 2011-03-28

"The past tempts us, the present confuses us, the future frightens us.  And
our lives slip away, moment by moment, lost in that vast, terrible in-between."

--Emperor Turhan, Centauri Republic


  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-05-05 22:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-05-05 14:06 [gentoo-mips] Reducing the number of the MIPS supported stages Markos Chandras
2014-05-05 17:04 ` Panagiotis Christopoulos
2014-05-05 17:17   ` Markos Chandras
2014-05-05 17:13 ` Justin Cormack
2014-05-05 17:16   ` Markos Chandras
2014-05-05 17:22 ` Matt Turner
2014-05-05 17:29   ` Markos Chandras
2014-05-05 23:34     ` Matt Turner
2014-05-05 22:02   ` Joshua Kinard [this message]
2014-05-05 23:30     ` Matt Turner
2014-05-06  0:15       ` Joshua Kinard
2014-05-05 23:36     ` Matt Turner
2014-05-06  0:09       ` Joshua Kinard
2014-05-06  7:07         ` Markos Chandras
2014-05-06  8:10           ` Joshua Kinard
2014-05-06 17:50             ` Markos Chandras
2014-05-06 21:37               ` Joshua Kinard
2014-05-07  7:06                 ` Markos Chandras
2014-05-07  7:22                   ` Joshua Kinard
2014-05-06 11:32           ` Anthony G. Basile
2014-05-06 17:40             ` Markos Chandras
2014-05-05 19:19 ` [gentoo-mips] " Anthony G. Basile
2014-05-05 19:33   ` Markos Chandras

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