From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 232C4139627 for ; Thu, 23 Jan 2014 20:49:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A6F18E0ABE; Thu, 23 Jan 2014 20:49:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1E4E8E0ABE for ; Thu, 23 Jan 2014 20:49:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.2] (unknown [2.221.35.40]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: hwoarang) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id F358133F439 for ; Thu, 23 Jan 2014 20:49:24 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <52E18027.7050401@gentoo.org> Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2014 20:48:39 +0000 From: Markos Chandras User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-mips@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-mips@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-mips@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-mips] Restore stable keywords on @system References: <52E02D2D.2070003@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 46675bf7-cd43-4aae-aa71-325bbea46219 X-Archives-Hash: 620407d1e7e894e521cd34e0d55a85d7 On 01/22/2014 09:01 PM, Matt Turner wrote: > On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 12:42 PM, Markos Chandras wrote: >> https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=498818 debates the need to >> restore the stable keywords to the @system packages in order to ease >> the build of stage3 tarballs. Right now there is a little bit of >> hackery (read masking) when we build the tarballs since not all the >> latest packages build on MIPS. However, in my opinion, restoring the >> stable keywords on MIPS add extra maintenance effort to an already >> understaffed team by requiring us to test both the latest ~arch and >> the latest stable of all the packages in the @system set. > > I've definitely experienced ~arch problems when building stages. Now > that you and Anthony have taken over those tasks, I don't think my > opinion about which is easier (stable @system, or masking versions > during stage building) is relevant. I am building mips64r2 as we speak, and I have no problems at the moment. The usual blockers were python-3 with multilib stuff blah blah (python-3.3 works ok) and texinfo from https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=471192 both seem to be resolved at this point. > > I think that you're probably right about the added problems of > attempting to keep a stable @system. Other stable architecture teams > aren't really able to keep up and I'm not convinced that we should > try. Given the limited manpower and hardware we have, I would say it is very hard to dedicate a box for testing a stable @system. If someone wants to take over this role, then fine by me, but we need to make sure he will be around and do this for as long as it takes. Personally, I am happy the way things are at the moment and fixing ~arch should be our priority -- Regards, Markos Chandras