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From: "Michał Górny" <mgorny@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-mips@lists.gentoo.org
Cc: vapier@gentoo.org, Alexis Ballier <aballier@gentoo.org>,
	mips@gentoo.org, multilib@gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-mips] On MIPS using the same CHOST for all multilib ABIs
Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2013 10:44:25 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20131230104425.69a086bf@gentoo.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201312291321.22221.vapier@gentoo.org>

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Dnia 2013-12-29, o godz. 13:21:21
Mike Frysinger <vapier@gentoo.org> napisał(a):

> we've run into issues in the past where people install a toolchain via 
> crossdev that uses the same tuple as the non-default ABI one (e.g. people on 
> an amd64 system do `crossdev i686-pc-linux-gnu`) and then the multilib code 
> gets confused.  but it's been much more of a hassle to try and get configure 
> scripts to use compile tests rather than probe the CHOST, so we've just lived 
> with this lesser evil.

Out of curiosity, does a dedicated i686 toolchain on a multilib amd64
host have any benefits over the toolchain's -m32 options? Well, except
for not needing the explicit options.


> > > > (1) here is not really a killer feature but I'd rather avoid
> > > > changing this at this point. (2) is actually a killer feature,
> > > > since the eclass sets CHOST properly and thanks to that
> > > > AC_CHECK_TOOL and friends can find multilib *-config progs and
> > > > stuff without any special hackery.
> > > 
> > > *-config progs are dead.  use pkg-config.
> > 
> > ok; but shouldnt we kill that tc-getPKG_CONFIG() which returns
> > $CHOST-pkg-config then ?
> 
> i didn't mean specifically use `pkg-config`.  packages should be using .pc files 
> instead of *-config scripts.

'Should' is far away from reality. I'd rather avoid Gentoo inventing
pkg-config files for random packages where upstream simply refuses to
do that.

Then, there's LLVM. Their llvm-config has some more options than
pkg-config does, and it supports selecting single components. If we're
to do something semi-equal to that, we'd end up with 116 pkg-config
files, plus around 23 for clang. And each new supported target
increases that number by 5-7 files.

Of course, we could put them all in a single file.. but then we're
replacing one crap with another. And forcing the --as-needed hack
on top of it.

-- 
Best regards,
Michał Górny

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  reply	other threads:[~2013-12-30  9:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-12-28 22:58 [gentoo-mips] On MIPS using the same CHOST for all multilib ABIs Michał Górny
2013-12-28 23:55 ` Markos Chandras
2013-12-29  2:12 ` Mike Frysinger
     [not found]   ` <20131229163354.35b65df5@gentoo.org>
2013-12-29 18:21     ` Mike Frysinger
2013-12-30  9:44       ` Michał Górny [this message]
2013-12-29 21:40 ` [gentoo-mips] " Joshua Kinard
2013-12-29 21:48   ` Markos Chandras
2013-12-29 21:48   ` Michał Górny
2013-12-29 21:48     ` Markos Chandras
2013-12-29 21:52       ` Anthony G. Basile
2013-12-29 22:04         ` Michał Górny
2013-12-29 23:56           ` Mike Frysinger
2013-12-30  7:51             ` Mike Frysinger
2013-12-30  8:17               ` sébastien bertoletto
2013-12-29 22:13         ` Markos Chandras
2013-12-29 22:19           ` Anthony G. Basile
2013-12-29 22:33             ` Markos Chandras
2013-12-29 23:47               ` Anthony G. Basile
2014-01-16 20:01 ` [gentoo-mips] " Michał Górny
2014-01-16 21:05   ` Anthony G. Basile
2014-01-16 21:24     ` Michał Górny
2014-01-16 22:29       ` Anthony G. Basile
2014-01-17  4:47         ` Michał Górny
2014-01-17 18:20           ` Markos Chandras
2014-01-17 18:36             ` Matt Turner
2014-01-17 19:38               ` Markos Chandras
2014-01-17 21:57                 ` Matt Turner
2014-01-17 18:51             ` Michał Górny
2014-01-17 19:44               ` Markos Chandras
2014-01-21 20:52                 ` Markos Chandras
2014-01-22 14:24                 ` Anthony G. Basile
2014-01-22 14:38                   ` Michał Górny
2014-01-22 20:39                     ` Markos Chandras
2014-01-22 21:07                       ` Anthony G. Basile

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