From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from <gentoo-lisp+bounces-143-garchives=archives.gentoo.org@lists.gentoo.org>) id 1Oteah-0005Ye-5G for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Thu, 09 Sep 2010 10:42:51 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0B2FCE0913; Thu, 9 Sep 2010 10:42:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6CA4E0913 for <gentoo-lisp@lists.gentoo.org>; Thu, 9 Sep 2010 10:42:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vereniki.bit-level.net (athedsl-4501827.home.otenet.gr [94.71.157.75]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A853E1B41CA; Thu, 9 Sep 2010 10:42:38 +0000 (UTC) Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 13:42:34 +0300 From: Panagiotis Christopoulos <pchrist@gentoo.org> To: gentoo-lisp@lists.gentoo.org Cc: treecleaner@gentoo.org Subject: [gentoo-lisp] First(1) attempt to clean-up the main tree from obsolete lisp packages (mainly dev-lisp/cl-*) Message-ID: <20100909104234.GA12965@Vereniki.lan> Precedence: bulk List-Post: <mailto:gentoo-lisp@lists.gentoo.org> List-Help: <mailto:gentoo-lisp+help@lists.gentoo.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:gentoo-lisp+unsubscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:gentoo-lisp+subscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Id: Gentoo Lisp mail <gentoo-lisp.gentoo.org> X-BeenThere: gentoo-lisp@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="hQiwHBbRI9kgIhsi" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-06-09) X-Archives-Salt: b7213d1c-3445-431a-b4c3-7ba0a697d71e X-Archives-Hash: f51a06ebb1800c83d7eafecd3b9d544d --hQiwHBbRI9kgIhsi Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="rwEMma7ioTxnRzrJ" Content-Disposition: inline --rwEMma7ioTxnRzrJ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello fellow lispers, I'm sending this mail to inform you about my wishfulness to start procedures to clean up the main tree from many obsolete/problematic packages[1] in order to provide some sort of easiness, working with packages of the "lisp" herd. The Lisp Team is extremely understaffed these days. Our leader (hkBst) has been away for long, me, I'm also not very much around cause of = real life problems and our new member chiiph has his own problems and noone to motivate him to work for gentoo. But there is hope, as soon as Stelian(fe[nl]ix) is here and new people(like Nicolas(Fulax) and Dmitry(dzhus)) step up and help.=20 I would like to move the packages of that list[1] to a temporary overlay(eg. using http://git.overlays.gentoo.org/gitweb/?p=3Dproj/lisp.git;a=3Dsummary , gentoo's infra provided for us) after a month of being masked for removal. My plan is as follows: 1) Discussing the matter in gentoo-lisp ml 2) if you don't have any serious considerations, sending mail to gentoo-dev about removing these packages ("Last Rites" etc.)and masking them in profiles 3) After a month period, removing them from the main tree and moving them to the temporary overlay 4) Fixing/bumping/porting our lisp implementations 5) Fixing/removing old lisp eclasses and porting the new ones 6) Check the status of our official overlay (http://repo.or.cz/w/gentoo-lisp-overlay.git) 7) Fix our Web page 8) Discuss what we're going to do with the old "Common lisp controller" technology 9) Start porting/moving packages from the official overlay to the main tree Before anyone starts to complain about the whole thing, please have in mind that the bug queue of obsolete/problematic packages is huge and our team gets many complaints from gentoo's QA team. Also, it's difficult for any of us to prioritize his work/contributions when he has to deal with so many bugs/old packages.=20 [1] http://dev.gentoo.org/~pchrist/work/misc/treecleaning/official/final_list_1= 0Aug10.txt ps1: the list is also attached to this mail ps2: I've cc'd the Treecleaners alias for informative purposes --=20 Panagiotis Christopoulos ( pchrist ) ( Gentoo Lisp Project ) --rwEMma7ioTxnRzrJ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="final_list_10Aug10.txt" dev-lisp/cl-acclaim dev-lisp/cl-acl-compat dev-lisp/cl-aim dev-lisp/cl-aima dev-lisp/cl-anaphora dev-lisp/cl-ansi-tests-cvs dev-lisp/cl-araneida dev-lisp/cl-archive dev-lisp/cl-arnesi-darcs dev-lisp/cl-asdf-system-connections dev-lisp/cl-aserve dev-lisp/cl-aspectl dev-lisp/cl-awk dev-lisp/cl-base64 dev-lisp/cl-bayescl dev-lisp/cl-binary-types dev-lisp/cl-bind dev-lisp/cl-blowfish dev-lisp/cl-bouquet dev-lisp/cl-cclan dev-lisp/cl-cells dev-lisp/cl-cffi dev-lisp/cl-cgi-utils dev-lisp/cl-ch-util dev-lisp/cl-chemical-compounds dev-lisp/cl-chunga dev-lisp/cl-clem dev-lisp/cl-closer-mop dev-lisp/cl-colorize dev-lisp/cl-common-idioms dev-lisp/cl-contextl dev-lisp/cl-csv dev-lisp/cl-curl dev-lisp/cl-cxml dev-lisp/cl-defpatt dev-lisp/cl-defsystem3 dev-lisp/cl-diff dev-lisp/cl-difflib dev-lisp/cl-dot dev-lisp/cl-drakma dev-lisp/cl-elephant dev-lisp/cl-emb dev-lisp/cl-environment dev-lisp/cl-fad dev-lisp/cl-fare-matcher dev-lisp/cl-fiveam-darcs dev-lisp/cl-flexi-streams dev-lisp/cl-ftp dev-lisp/cl-fucc dev-lisp/cl-gcc-xml-ffi dev-lisp/cl-gd dev-lisp/cl-genhash dev-lisp/cl-getopt dev-lisp/cl-gordon dev-lisp/cl-hello dev-lisp/cl-html-diff dev-lisp/cl-html-encode dev-lisp/cl-html-parse dev-lisp/cl-html-template dev-lisp/cl-htmlgen dev-lisp/cl-hunchentoot dev-lisp/cl-hyperobject dev-lisp/cl-inflate dev-lisp/cl-interpol dev-lisp/cl-irc dev-lisp/cl-irc-logger dev-lisp/cl-ironclad dev-lisp/cl-isbn dev-lisp/cl-iterate dev-lisp/cl-jpeg dev-lisp/cl-kmrcl dev-lisp/cl-kr dev-lisp/cl-lambda-gtk dev-lisp/cl-launch dev-lisp/cl-lexer dev-lisp/cl-linedit dev-lisp/cl-lisp2wish dev-lisp/cl-lml dev-lisp/cl-lml2 dev-lisp/cl-log4cl dev-lisp/cl-ltk dev-lisp/cl-lw-compat dev-lisp/cl-mcclim dev-lisp/cl-md5 dev-lisp/cl-mel-base dev-lisp/cl-memoization dev-lisp/cl-menusystem dev-lisp/cl-meta dev-lisp/cl-mop-features dev-lisp/cl-mpd dev-lisp/cl-mt19937 dev-lisp/cl-ncurses dev-lisp/cl-net-telent-date dev-lisp/cl-odcl dev-lisp/cl-org-davep-cldict dev-lisp/cl-org-davep-dict dev-lisp/cl-org-davep-dictrepl dev-lisp/cl-org-davep-newsrc dev-lisp/cl-org-davep-nntp dev-lisp/cl-osicat dev-lisp/cl-packer dev-lisp/cl-paip dev-lisp/cl-parenscript-darcs dev-lisp/cl-parse-number dev-lisp/cl-pdf dev-lisp/cl-periodic-table dev-lisp/cl-pg dev-lisp/cl-pipes dev-lisp/cl-plus dev-lisp/cl-plus-ssl dev-lisp/cl-png dev-lisp/cl-poly-pen dev-lisp/cl-pop dev-lisp/cl-port dev-lisp/cl-postoffice dev-lisp/cl-prevalence dev-lisp/cl-psgraph dev-lisp/cl-ptester dev-lisp/cl-puri dev-lisp/cl-pxmlutils dev-lisp/cl-quick-arrays dev-lisp/cl-regex dev-lisp/cl-resolver dev-lisp/cl-rfc2109-darcs dev-lisp/cl-rfc2388 dev-lisp/cl-rfc2388-darcs dev-lisp/cl-rsm-bitcomp dev-lisp/cl-rsm-bool-comp dev-lisp/cl-rsm-cache dev-lisp/cl-rsm-delayed dev-lisp/cl-rsm-filter dev-lisp/cl-rsm-finance dev-lisp/cl-rsm-fuzzy dev-lisp/cl-rsm-memo dev-lisp/cl-rsm-mod dev-lisp/cl-rsm-modal dev-lisp/cl-rsm-mpoly dev-lisp/cl-rsm-queue dev-lisp/cl-rsm-rand dev-lisp/cl-rsm-random dev-lisp/cl-rsm-rsa dev-lisp/cl-rsm-string dev-lisp/cl-rss dev-lisp/cl-rt dev-lisp/cl-s-base64 dev-lisp/cl-s-sysdeps dev-lisp/cl-s-xml dev-lisp/cl-s-xml-rpc dev-lisp/cl-salza dev-lisp/cl-sapaclisp dev-lisp/cl-sasl dev-lisp/cl-sb-readline dev-lisp/cl-scribble dev-lisp/cl-sdl dev-lisp/cl-series dev-lisp/cl-sha1 dev-lisp/cl-smtp dev-lisp/cl-spatial-trees dev-lisp/cl-split-sequence dev-lisp/cl-sql dev-lisp/cl-ssl dev-lisp/cl-statistics dev-lisp/cl-store dev-lisp/cl-syslog dev-lisp/cl-tbnl dev-lisp/cl-tclink dev-lisp/cl-terminfo dev-lisp/cl-torta dev-lisp/cl-trivial-configuration-parser dev-lisp/cl-trivial-gray-streams dev-lisp/cl-trivial-http dev-lisp/cl-trivial-sockets dev-lisp/cl-typesetting dev-lisp/cl-ubf dev-lisp/cl-uffi dev-lisp/cl-unit dev-lisp/cl-url-rewrite dev-lisp/cl-utilities dev-lisp/cl-utils-kt dev-lisp/cl-webactions dev-lisp/cl-who dev-lisp/cl-with dev-lisp/cl-xlunit dev-lisp/cl-xml-emitter dev-lisp/cl-xml-psychiatrist dev-lisp/cl-xmls dev-lisp/cl-xmls-valid dev-lisp/cl-xptest dev-lisp/cl-yacc dev-lisp/cl-yaclml-darcs dev-lisp/cl-yahoo dev-lisp/cl-z80 dev-lisp/cl-zebu dev-lisp/cl-zip dev-lisp/cl-zpb-ttf dev-lisp/hedgehog dev-lisp/lush dev-lisp/xlispstat dev-vcs/mcvs media-sound/rip-l --rwEMma7ioTxnRzrJ-- --hQiwHBbRI9kgIhsi Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEABECAAYFAkyIuhoACgkQOsV5uRvANla2fgCeNeaOEneiaXc45XEPrhqIPqGd 9x0An25B4j9aVv8xSYcrQWQRS45iSaJD =oanN -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --hQiwHBbRI9kgIhsi--