[gentoo-lisp] First(1) attempt to clean-up the main tree from obsolete lisp packages (mainly dev-lisp/cl-*)

[gentoo-lisp] First(1) attempt to clean-up the main tree from obsolete lisp packages (mainly dev-lisp/cl-*)

[Panagiotis Christopoulos]

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Hello fellow lispers,

    I'm sending this mail to inform you about my wishfulness to start
procedures to clean up the main tree from many obsolete/problematic
packages[1] in order to provide some sort of easiness, working with
packages of the "lisp" herd.

    The Lisp Team is extremely understaffed these days. Our leader
(hkBst) has been away for long, me, I'm also not very much around cause of real
life problems and our new member chiiph has his own problems and noone
to motivate him to work for gentoo. But there is hope, as soon as
Stelian(fe[nl]ix) is here and new people(like Nicolas(Fulax) and
Dmitry(dzhus)) step up and help. 

    I would like to move the packages of that list[1] to a temporary
overlay(eg. using
http://git.overlays.gentoo.org/gitweb/?p=proj/lisp.git;a=summary ,
gentoo's infra provided for us) after a month of being masked for
removal. My plan is as follows:
1) Discussing the matter in gentoo-lisp ml
2) if you don't have any serious considerations, sending mail to
gentoo-dev about removing these packages ("Last Rites" etc.)and masking
them in profiles
3) After a month period, removing them from the main tree and moving them
to the temporary overlay
4) Fixing/bumping/porting our lisp implementations
5) Fixing/removing old lisp eclasses and porting the new ones
6) Check the status of our official overlay
(http://repo.or.cz/w/gentoo-lisp-overlay.git)
7) Fix our Web page
8) Discuss what we're going to do with the old "Common lisp controller"
technology
9) Start porting/moving packages from the official overlay to the main
tree

    Before anyone starts to complain about the whole thing, please have
in mind that the bug queue of obsolete/problematic packages is huge and our
team gets many complaints from gentoo's QA team. Also, it's difficult
for any of us to prioritize his work/contributions when he has to deal
with so many bugs/old packages. 

[1]
http://dev.gentoo.org/~pchrist/work/misc/treecleaning/official/final_list_10Aug10.txt

ps1: the list is also attached to this mail
ps2: I've cc'd the Treecleaners alias for informative purposes

-- 
Panagiotis Christopoulos ( pchrist )
    ( Gentoo Lisp Project )

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dev-lisp/cl-acclaim
dev-lisp/cl-acl-compat
dev-lisp/cl-aim
dev-lisp/cl-aima
dev-lisp/cl-anaphora
dev-lisp/cl-ansi-tests-cvs
dev-lisp/cl-araneida
dev-lisp/cl-archive
dev-lisp/cl-arnesi-darcs
dev-lisp/cl-asdf-system-connections
dev-lisp/cl-aserve
dev-lisp/cl-aspectl
dev-lisp/cl-awk
dev-lisp/cl-base64
dev-lisp/cl-bayescl
dev-lisp/cl-binary-types
dev-lisp/cl-bind
dev-lisp/cl-blowfish
dev-lisp/cl-bouquet
dev-lisp/cl-cclan
dev-lisp/cl-cells
dev-lisp/cl-cffi
dev-lisp/cl-cgi-utils
dev-lisp/cl-ch-util
dev-lisp/cl-chemical-compounds
dev-lisp/cl-chunga
dev-lisp/cl-clem
dev-lisp/cl-closer-mop
dev-lisp/cl-colorize
dev-lisp/cl-common-idioms
dev-lisp/cl-contextl
dev-lisp/cl-csv
dev-lisp/cl-curl
dev-lisp/cl-cxml
dev-lisp/cl-defpatt
dev-lisp/cl-defsystem3
dev-lisp/cl-diff
dev-lisp/cl-difflib
dev-lisp/cl-dot
dev-lisp/cl-drakma
dev-lisp/cl-elephant
dev-lisp/cl-emb
dev-lisp/cl-environment
dev-lisp/cl-fad
dev-lisp/cl-fare-matcher
dev-lisp/cl-fiveam-darcs
dev-lisp/cl-flexi-streams
dev-lisp/cl-ftp
dev-lisp/cl-fucc
dev-lisp/cl-gcc-xml-ffi
dev-lisp/cl-gd
dev-lisp/cl-genhash
dev-lisp/cl-getopt
dev-lisp/cl-gordon
dev-lisp/cl-hello
dev-lisp/cl-html-diff
dev-lisp/cl-html-encode
dev-lisp/cl-html-parse
dev-lisp/cl-html-template
dev-lisp/cl-htmlgen
dev-lisp/cl-hunchentoot
dev-lisp/cl-hyperobject
dev-lisp/cl-inflate
dev-lisp/cl-interpol
dev-lisp/cl-irc
dev-lisp/cl-irc-logger
dev-lisp/cl-ironclad
dev-lisp/cl-isbn
dev-lisp/cl-iterate
dev-lisp/cl-jpeg
dev-lisp/cl-kmrcl
dev-lisp/cl-kr
dev-lisp/cl-lambda-gtk
dev-lisp/cl-launch
dev-lisp/cl-lexer
dev-lisp/cl-linedit
dev-lisp/cl-lisp2wish
dev-lisp/cl-lml
dev-lisp/cl-lml2
dev-lisp/cl-log4cl
dev-lisp/cl-ltk
dev-lisp/cl-lw-compat
dev-lisp/cl-mcclim
dev-lisp/cl-md5
dev-lisp/cl-mel-base
dev-lisp/cl-memoization
dev-lisp/cl-menusystem
dev-lisp/cl-meta
dev-lisp/cl-mop-features
dev-lisp/cl-mpd
dev-lisp/cl-mt19937
dev-lisp/cl-ncurses
dev-lisp/cl-net-telent-date
dev-lisp/cl-odcl
dev-lisp/cl-org-davep-cldict
dev-lisp/cl-org-davep-dict
dev-lisp/cl-org-davep-dictrepl
dev-lisp/cl-org-davep-newsrc
dev-lisp/cl-org-davep-nntp
dev-lisp/cl-osicat
dev-lisp/cl-packer
dev-lisp/cl-paip
dev-lisp/cl-parenscript-darcs
dev-lisp/cl-parse-number
dev-lisp/cl-pdf
dev-lisp/cl-periodic-table
dev-lisp/cl-pg
dev-lisp/cl-pipes
dev-lisp/cl-plus
dev-lisp/cl-plus-ssl
dev-lisp/cl-png
dev-lisp/cl-poly-pen
dev-lisp/cl-pop
dev-lisp/cl-port
dev-lisp/cl-postoffice
dev-lisp/cl-prevalence
dev-lisp/cl-psgraph
dev-lisp/cl-ptester
dev-lisp/cl-puri
dev-lisp/cl-pxmlutils
dev-lisp/cl-quick-arrays
dev-lisp/cl-regex
dev-lisp/cl-resolver
dev-lisp/cl-rfc2109-darcs
dev-lisp/cl-rfc2388
dev-lisp/cl-rfc2388-darcs
dev-lisp/cl-rsm-bitcomp
dev-lisp/cl-rsm-bool-comp
dev-lisp/cl-rsm-cache
dev-lisp/cl-rsm-delayed
dev-lisp/cl-rsm-filter
dev-lisp/cl-rsm-finance
dev-lisp/cl-rsm-fuzzy
dev-lisp/cl-rsm-memo
dev-lisp/cl-rsm-mod
dev-lisp/cl-rsm-modal
dev-lisp/cl-rsm-mpoly
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dev-lisp/cl-rsm-rand
dev-lisp/cl-rsm-random
dev-lisp/cl-rsm-rsa
dev-lisp/cl-rsm-string
dev-lisp/cl-rss
dev-lisp/cl-rt
dev-lisp/cl-s-base64
dev-lisp/cl-s-sysdeps
dev-lisp/cl-s-xml
dev-lisp/cl-s-xml-rpc
dev-lisp/cl-salza
dev-lisp/cl-sapaclisp
dev-lisp/cl-sasl
dev-lisp/cl-sb-readline
dev-lisp/cl-scribble
dev-lisp/cl-sdl
dev-lisp/cl-series
dev-lisp/cl-sha1
dev-lisp/cl-smtp
dev-lisp/cl-spatial-trees
dev-lisp/cl-split-sequence
dev-lisp/cl-sql
dev-lisp/cl-ssl
dev-lisp/cl-statistics
dev-lisp/cl-store
dev-lisp/cl-syslog
dev-lisp/cl-tbnl
dev-lisp/cl-tclink
dev-lisp/cl-terminfo
dev-lisp/cl-torta
dev-lisp/cl-trivial-configuration-parser
dev-lisp/cl-trivial-gray-streams
dev-lisp/cl-trivial-http
dev-lisp/cl-trivial-sockets
dev-lisp/cl-typesetting
dev-lisp/cl-ubf
dev-lisp/cl-uffi
dev-lisp/cl-unit
dev-lisp/cl-url-rewrite
dev-lisp/cl-utilities
dev-lisp/cl-utils-kt
dev-lisp/cl-webactions
dev-lisp/cl-who
dev-lisp/cl-with
dev-lisp/cl-xlunit
dev-lisp/cl-xml-emitter
dev-lisp/cl-xml-psychiatrist
dev-lisp/cl-xmls
dev-lisp/cl-xmls-valid
dev-lisp/cl-xptest
dev-lisp/cl-yacc
dev-lisp/cl-yaclml-darcs
dev-lisp/cl-yahoo
dev-lisp/cl-z80
dev-lisp/cl-zebu
dev-lisp/cl-zip
dev-lisp/cl-zpb-ttf
dev-lisp/hedgehog
dev-lisp/lush
dev-lisp/xlispstat
dev-vcs/mcvs
media-sound/rip-l

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Re: [gentoo-lisp] First(1) attempt to clean-up the main tree from obsolete lisp packages (mainly dev-lisp/cl-*)

[Christian Faulhammer]

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Hi,

Panagiotis Christopoulos <pchrist@gentoo.org>:
> 2) if you don't have any serious considerations, sending mail to
> gentoo-dev about removing these packages ("Last Rites" etc.)and
> masking them in profiles

 Use gentoo-dev-announce.

>     Before anyone starts to complain about the whole thing, please
> have in mind that the bug queue of obsolete/problematic packages is
> huge and our team gets many complaints from gentoo's QA team. Also,
> it's difficult for any of us to prioritize his work/contributions
> when he has to deal with so many bugs/old packages. 

 The plan looks sane.  Better start from scratch than having this huge
mess in the tree.

V-Li

-- 
Christian Faulhammer, Gentoo Lisp project
<URL:http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/lisp/>, #gentoo-lisp on FreeNode

<URL:http://gentoo.faulhammer.org/>

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