[gentoo-laptop] Trying Gentoo linux on a new Asus M6 laptop

[gentoo-laptop] Trying Gentoo linux on a new Asus M6 laptop

[Henri Magnin]

Hi

I recently purchased an Asus M6 (Centrino 1.6GHz), and did not want to bother
anymore with the Windoze Family stuff.

I wanted to install a modular Linux, which I could master and upgrade as I 
like.
I earlier tried muliple other distributions (Aurox, Mandrake), but I did no 
longer expect to have any "straightforward" or "magic" install which was too 
tricky to update in future.

I downloaded Gentoo 2004.2, started from stage3 (in a first trial), and 
compiled a 2.6.7 kernel.

All was Ok, I even compiled X11 and kde and ati_drivers, to try employ at 
best my Radeon 9700 graphics card.

My concern is about the CD-Rom on my own (very new) linux install.
When booting from the install boot CD-Rom, I have a /dev/cdroms/cdrom0 device.

But in the /dev of my hard-disk install, there is no such entry. So when I 
chroot to it, I can no more see the CD-Rom device.

Maybe I missed something in the Kernel config ? This while, I followed the 
indications provided in the Gentoo manual concerning kernel configuration...

Thanks by advance for your help

Regards
Henri

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Re: [gentoo-laptop] Trying Gentoo linux on a new Asus M6 laptop

[Jaroslav Sladek]

On Fri, 22 Oct 2004 23:29:03 +0200, Henri Magnin <henri.magnin@fnac.net> wrote:
> Hi
> 
> I recently purchased an Asus M6 (Centrino 1.6GHz), and did not want to bother
> anymore with the Windoze Family stuff.
> 
> I wanted to install a modular Linux, which I could master and upgrade as I
> like.
> I earlier tried muliple other distributions (Aurox, Mandrake), but I did no
> longer expect to have any "straightforward" or "magic" install which was too
> tricky to update in future.
> 
> I downloaded Gentoo 2004.2, started from stage3 (in a first trial), and
> compiled a 2.6.7 kernel.
> 
> All was Ok, I even compiled X11 and kde and ati_drivers, to try employ at
> best my Radeon 9700 graphics card.
> 
> My concern is about the CD-Rom on my own (very new) linux install.
> When booting from the install boot CD-Rom, I have a /dev/cdroms/cdrom0 device.
> 
> But in the /dev of my hard-disk install, there is no such entry. So when I
> chroot to it, I can no more see the CD-Rom device.

You mean when you chroot to your harddisk after booting from CD?
That's not a big deal, since gentoo uses devfs (or udev) which gets
initialized during boot up sequence and actually creates all needed
devices in /dev of your root filesystem.

But if I misunderstood you and you're not seeing you CD rom device in
/dev of your harddisk AFTER you booted your new kernel, then you
probably forget something in kernel config. Most likely, you should
have option "Include IDE/ATAPI CDROM support" checked under Device
drivers->IDE/ATAPI/MFM/RLL support menu.

Jaroslav Sladek

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Re: [gentoo-laptop] Trying Gentoo linux on a new Asus M6 laptop

[Michael Rutledge]

I'm not familiar with an ASUS laptop, but I know that a Sony VAIO has
a firewire bus for the cdrom.  You might want to check to see if your
cdrom is firewire or IDE.  When you use your gentoo boot CD, try lsmod
and see if it is loading any special firewire drivers.  This might can
help you find out.

-Michael


On Sat, 23 Oct 2004 00:19:08 +0200, Jaroslav Sladek
<jaroslav.sladek@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 22 Oct 2004 23:29:03 +0200, Henri Magnin <henri.magnin@fnac.net> wrote:
> > Hi
> >
> > I recently purchased an Asus M6 (Centrino 1.6GHz), and did not want to bother
> > anymore with the Windoze Family stuff.
> >
> > I wanted to install a modular Linux, which I could master and upgrade as I
> > like.
> > I earlier tried muliple other distributions (Aurox, Mandrake), but I did no
> > longer expect to have any "straightforward" or "magic" install which was too
> > tricky to update in future.
> >
> > I downloaded Gentoo 2004.2, started from stage3 (in a first trial), and
> > compiled a 2.6.7 kernel.
> >
> > All was Ok, I even compiled X11 and kde and ati_drivers, to try employ at
> > best my Radeon 9700 graphics card.
> >
> > My concern is about the CD-Rom on my own (very new) linux install.
> > When booting from the install boot CD-Rom, I have a /dev/cdroms/cdrom0 device.
> >
> > But in the /dev of my hard-disk install, there is no such entry. So when I
> > chroot to it, I can no more see the CD-Rom device.
> 
> You mean when you chroot to your harddisk after booting from CD?
> That's not a big deal, since gentoo uses devfs (or udev) which gets
> initialized during boot up sequence and actually creates all needed
> devices in /dev of your root filesystem.
> 
> But if I misunderstood you and you're not seeing you CD rom device in
> /dev of your harddisk AFTER you booted your new kernel, then you
> probably forget something in kernel config. Most likely, you should
> have option "Include IDE/ATAPI CDROM support" checked under Device
> drivers->IDE/ATAPI/MFM/RLL support menu.
> 
> Jaroslav Sladek
> 
> 
> 
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> 
>

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Re: [gentoo-laptop] Trying Gentoo linux on a new Asus M6 laptop

[Henri Magnin]

Hi

Thanks for so quick and kind response.
I also had an e-mail from another person in the mailing list,
who suggested me to really reboot with my new kernel rather than
simply CHROOTing and checking what was available under /dev...

Indeed, the /dev/cdroms/cdrom0 appeared and was operational when I
really rebooted Gentoo from my hard disk.

But I now face other difficulties. I do not have any eth0 available, even the
cable link one (I also have WiFi, but expected to configure this later). Just 
'lo' appears in ifconfig...
I tried 'genkernel all' (rather than 'make menuconfig / make / make 
modules_install'), but eth0 is not recognized anymore; although the
'universal install' CD does (I really wonder how its kernel is built ;-)...

I think I will give up and move to a Suze with 2.6.x kernel since I did not
expect to spend a full week having an operational Linux on my machine.
- I think I will backup what I've done with Gentoo and come back to it later 
on... -

Anyway, thanks again for your help.

Regards
Henri

Le Samedi 23 Octobre 2004 04:22, vous avez écrit :
> I'm not familiar with an ASUS laptop, but I know that a Sony VAIO has
> a firewire bus for the cdrom.  You might want to check to see if your
> cdrom is firewire or IDE.  When you use your gentoo boot CD, try lsmod
> and see if it is loading any special firewire drivers.  This might can
> help you find out.
>
> -Michael
>
>
> On Sat, 23 Oct 2004 00:19:08 +0200, Jaroslav Sladek
>
> <jaroslav.sladek@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Fri, 22 Oct 2004 23:29:03 +0200, Henri Magnin <henri.magnin@fnac.net> 
wrote:
> > > Hi
> > >
> > > I recently purchased an Asus M6 (Centrino 1.6GHz), and did not want to
> > > bother anymore with the Windoze Family stuff.
> > >
> > > I wanted to install a modular Linux, which I could master and upgrade
> > > as I like.
> > > I earlier tried muliple other distributions (Aurox, Mandrake), but I
> > > did no longer expect to have any "straightforward" or "magic" install
> > > which was too tricky to update in future.
> > >
> > > I downloaded Gentoo 2004.2, started from stage3 (in a first trial), and
> > > compiled a 2.6.7 kernel.
> > >
> > > All was Ok, I even compiled X11 and kde and ati_drivers, to try employ
> > > at best my Radeon 9700 graphics card.
> > >
> > > My concern is about the CD-Rom on my own (very new) linux install.
> > > When booting from the install boot CD-Rom, I have a /dev/cdroms/cdrom0
> > > device.
> > >
> > > But in the /dev of my hard-disk install, there is no such entry. So
> > > when I chroot to it, I can no more see the CD-Rom device.
> >
> > You mean when you chroot to your harddisk after booting from CD?
> > That's not a big deal, since gentoo uses devfs (or udev) which gets
> > initialized during boot up sequence and actually creates all needed
> > devices in /dev of your root filesystem.
> >
> > But if I misunderstood you and you're not seeing you CD rom device in
> > /dev of your harddisk AFTER you booted your new kernel, then you
> > probably forget something in kernel config. Most likely, you should
> > have option "Include IDE/ATAPI CDROM support" checked under Device
> > drivers->IDE/ATAPI/MFM/RLL support menu.
> >
> > Jaroslav Sladek
> >
> >
> >
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RE: [gentoo-laptop] Trying Gentoo linux on a new Asus M6 laptop

[Spencer McGuire]

Maybe you should have found out what hardware was in your computer before
linux install, it is always helpful to have a full list of hardware when
dealing with a laptop, and knowing which modules/ drivers you need for
everything, I have had my troubles with linux but just stuck it through till
the end, when everything is working great. BTW, I have a tablet pc, you
thought a weekend was bad, try a month to get everything working.
Spencer

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From: Henri Magnin [mailto:henri.magnin@fnac.net] 
Sent: Saturday, October 23, 2004 4:07 AM
To: gentoo-laptop@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-laptop] Trying Gentoo linux on a new Asus M6 laptop

Hi

Thanks for so quick and kind response.
I also had an e-mail from another person in the mailing list,
who suggested me to really reboot with my new kernel rather than
simply CHROOTing and checking what was available under /dev...

Indeed, the /dev/cdroms/cdrom0 appeared and was operational when I
really rebooted Gentoo from my hard disk.

But I now face other difficulties. I do not have any eth0 available, even
the
cable link one (I also have WiFi, but expected to configure this later).
Just 
'lo' appears in ifconfig...
I tried 'genkernel all' (rather than 'make menuconfig / make / make 
modules_install'), but eth0 is not recognized anymore; although the
'universal install' CD does (I really wonder how its kernel is built ;-)...

I think I will give up and move to a Suze with 2.6.x kernel since I did not
expect to spend a full week having an operational Linux on my machine.
- I think I will backup what I've done with Gentoo and come back to it later

on... -

Anyway, thanks again for your help.

Regards
Henri

Le Samedi 23 Octobre 2004 04:22, vous avez écrit :
> I'm not familiar with an ASUS laptop, but I know that a Sony VAIO has
> a firewire bus for the cdrom.  You might want to check to see if your
> cdrom is firewire or IDE.  When you use your gentoo boot CD, try lsmod
> and see if it is loading any special firewire drivers.  This might can
> help you find out.
>
> -Michael
>
>
> On Sat, 23 Oct 2004 00:19:08 +0200, Jaroslav Sladek
>
> <jaroslav.sladek@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Fri, 22 Oct 2004 23:29:03 +0200, Henri Magnin <henri.magnin@fnac.net>

wrote:
> > > Hi
> > >
> > > I recently purchased an Asus M6 (Centrino 1.6GHz), and did not want to
> > > bother anymore with the Windoze Family stuff.
> > >
> > > I wanted to install a modular Linux, which I could master and upgrade
> > > as I like.
> > > I earlier tried muliple other distributions (Aurox, Mandrake), but I
> > > did no longer expect to have any "straightforward" or "magic" install
> > > which was too tricky to update in future.
> > >
> > > I downloaded Gentoo 2004.2, started from stage3 (in a first trial),
and
> > > compiled a 2.6.7 kernel.
> > >
> > > All was Ok, I even compiled X11 and kde and ati_drivers, to try employ
> > > at best my Radeon 9700 graphics card.
> > >
> > > My concern is about the CD-Rom on my own (very new) linux install.
> > > When booting from the install boot CD-Rom, I have a /dev/cdroms/cdrom0
> > > device.
> > >
> > > But in the /dev of my hard-disk install, there is no such entry. So
> > > when I chroot to it, I can no more see the CD-Rom device.
> >
> > You mean when you chroot to your harddisk after booting from CD?
> > That's not a big deal, since gentoo uses devfs (or udev) which gets
> > initialized during boot up sequence and actually creates all needed
> > devices in /dev of your root filesystem.
> >
> > But if I misunderstood you and you're not seeing you CD rom device in
> > /dev of your harddisk AFTER you booted your new kernel, then you
> > probably forget something in kernel config. Most likely, you should
> > have option "Include IDE/ATAPI CDROM support" checked under Device
> > drivers->IDE/ATAPI/MFM/RLL support menu.
> >
> > Jaroslav Sladek
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [gentoo-laptop] Trying Gentoo linux on a new Asus M6 laptop

[Henri Magnin]

Hello

First of all, thanks _a_lot_ for your so quick answer.

In facr, I just CHROOTed to my hard disk, mounted swap and boot partitions 
there, installed grub, but did not yet try to reboot from the hard disk.
I just wanted to check that all was OK before rebooting with my freshly
compilated environment.

So maybe there is no problem at all. I will try to boot on hard disk ASAP.
I will update you on what is going on.

Regards
Henri

Le Samedi 23 Octobre 2004 00:19, vous avez écrit :
> On Fri, 22 Oct 2004 23:29:03 +0200, Henri Magnin <henri.magnin@fnac.net> 
wrote:
> > Hi
> >
> > I recently purchased an Asus M6 (Centrino 1.6GHz), and did not want to
> > bother anymore with the Windoze Family stuff.
> >
> > I wanted to install a modular Linux, which I could master and upgrade as
> > I like.
> > I earlier tried muliple other distributions (Aurox, Mandrake), but I did
> > no longer expect to have any "straightforward" or "magic" install which
> > was too tricky to update in future.
> >
> > I downloaded Gentoo 2004.2, started from stage3 (in a first trial), and
> > compiled a 2.6.7 kernel.
> >
> > All was Ok, I even compiled X11 and kde and ati_drivers, to try employ at
> > best my Radeon 9700 graphics card.
> >
> > My concern is about the CD-Rom on my own (very new) linux install.
> > When booting from the install boot CD-Rom, I have a /dev/cdroms/cdrom0
> > device.
> >
> > But in the /dev of my hard-disk install, there is no such entry. So when
> > I chroot to it, I can no more see the CD-Rom device.
>
> You mean when you chroot to your harddisk after booting from CD?
> That's not a big deal, since gentoo uses devfs (or udev) which gets
> initialized during boot up sequence and actually creates all needed
> devices in /dev of your root filesystem.
>
> But if I misunderstood you and you're not seeing you CD rom device in
> /dev of your harddisk AFTER you booted your new kernel, then you
> probably forget something in kernel config. Most likely, you should
> have option "Include IDE/ATAPI CDROM support" checked under Device
> drivers->IDE/ATAPI/MFM/RLL support menu.
>
> Jaroslav Sladek

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