[gentoo-laptop] Laptop Advise

[gentoo-laptop] Laptop Advise

[maillists]

Hi,

I am looking for a good choice of laptops to use with Gentoo.

I would like to use my pre-titanium  firewire powerbook 500mhz G3
(pezzo) Also I have a G3 ibook (clamshell) that I would like to convert.

Does anybody have experience with these models?
Does anybody know of any laptops to avoid with Gentoo? 

Thanks
Rick
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Re: [gentoo-laptop] Laptop Advise

[michael]

As a very gross rule, I've been happy with Dell and Thinkpads, and been
unhappy with Vaio. My own experience is supported by comments from
friends and what I've read on the web.

Now that I've said this, I'm sure someone will respond with exactly the
opposite. But I'm very interested in the answers.

Michael


On Thu, 17 Nov 2005, maillists wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I am looking for a good choice of laptops to use with Gentoo.
>
> I would like to use my pre-titanium  firewire powerbook 500mhz G3
> (pezzo) Also I have a G3 ibook (clamshell) that I would like to convert.
>
> Does anybody have experience with these models?
> Does anybody know of any laptops to avoid with Gentoo?
>
> Thanks
> Rick
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>
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Re: [gentoo-laptop] Laptop Advise

[Truong NINH]

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What is your budget?
Iam using Averatec 6240 and more than happy with it. Everything is working
like charm, all driver supported with Linux.

On 11/17/05, michael@michaelshiloh.com <michael@michaelshiloh.com> wrote:
>
> As a very gross rule, I've been happy with Dell and Thinkpads, and been
> unhappy with Vaio. My own experience is supported by comments from
> friends and what I've read on the web.
>
> Now that I've said this, I'm sure someone will respond with exactly the
> opposite. But I'm very interested in the answers.
>
> Michael
>
>
> On Thu, 17 Nov 2005, maillists wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > I am looking for a good choice of laptops to use with Gentoo.
> >
> > I would like to use my pre-titanium firewire powerbook 500mhz G3
> > (pezzo) Also I have a G3 ibook (clamshell) that I would like to convert.
> >
> > Does anybody have experience with these models?
> > Does anybody know of any laptops to avoid with Gentoo?
> >
> > Thanks
> > Rick
> > --
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> >
> >
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>
>


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Re: [gentoo-laptop] Laptop Advise

[maillists]

Thanks!

My budget is very low (under $800.) I have more time than money! I guess
I would like to know if there is any laptop that I should stay away
from.  

I would really like to convert my existing laptops (mac powerbook pezzo,
and ibook clamshell) Otherwise I would look around for a used dell, IBM,
sony, or whatever.

One thing I am looking for is if the hardware on the powerbook pezzo is
supported (firewire, dvdrom drive, duel batteries, usb, airport card,
additional display, modem, networking and sound)

I am very interested in using my powerbook for editing video/audio.
Right now I have MacOS 9. with Final Cut Pro.
I have not upgraded to OSX because I would have to update my Final Cut
Pro and adobe stuff too. I would rather set up some kind of "video for
linux" solution instead. All my desktops in my office are Gentoo, so I
would like to be consistent with my laptop.

Thanks again!
Rick



On Thu, 2005-11-17 at 18:51 +0000, Truong NINH wrote:
> What is your budget?
> Iam using Averatec 6240 and more than happy with it. Everything is
> working like charm, all driver supported with Linux.
> 
> On 11/17/05, michael@michaelshiloh.com <michael@michaelshiloh.com>
> wrote:
>         As a very gross rule, I've been happy with Dell and Thinkpads,
>         and been
>         unhappy with Vaio. My own experience is supported by comments
>         from
>         friends and what I've read on the web.
>         
>         Now that I've said this, I'm sure someone will respond with
>         exactly the 
>         opposite. But I'm very interested in the answers.
>         
>         Michael
>         
>         
>         On Thu, 17 Nov 2005, maillists wrote:
>         
>         > Hi,
>         >
>         > I am looking for a good choice of laptops to use with
>         Gentoo.
>         >
>         > I would like to use my pre-titanium  firewire powerbook
>         500mhz G3
>         > (pezzo) Also I have a G3 ibook (clamshell) that I would like
>         to convert.
>         >
>         > Does anybody have experience with these models?
>         > Does anybody know of any laptops to avoid with Gentoo? 
>         >
>         > Thanks
>         > Rick
>         > --
>         > gentoo-laptop@gentoo.org mailing list
>         >
>         >
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>         
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [gentoo-laptop] Laptop Advise

[michael]

If you don't want to risk your OS 9 software until you are sure it will
work with linux, you can use a live CD. If the live cd doesn't support
everything you need, you can modify and create your own custom live cd.


On Thu, 17 Nov 2005, maillists wrote:

> Thanks!
>
> My budget is very low (under $800.) I have more time than money! I guess
> I would like to know if there is any laptop that I should stay away
> from.
>
> I would really like to convert my existing laptops (mac powerbook pezzo,
> and ibook clamshell) Otherwise I would look around for a used dell, IBM,
> sony, or whatever.
>
> One thing I am looking for is if the hardware on the powerbook pezzo is
> supported (firewire, dvdrom drive, duel batteries, usb, airport card,
> additional display, modem, networking and sound)
>
> I am very interested in using my powerbook for editing video/audio.
> Right now I have MacOS 9. with Final Cut Pro.
> I have not upgraded to OSX because I would have to update my Final Cut
> Pro and adobe stuff too. I would rather set up some kind of "video for
> linux" solution instead. All my desktops in my office are Gentoo, so I
> would like to be consistent with my laptop.
>
> Thanks again!
> Rick
>
>
>
> On Thu, 2005-11-17 at 18:51 +0000, Truong NINH wrote:
>> What is your budget?
>> Iam using Averatec 6240 and more than happy with it. Everything is
>> working like charm, all driver supported with Linux.
>>
>> On 11/17/05, michael@michaelshiloh.com <michael@michaelshiloh.com>
>> wrote:
>>         As a very gross rule, I've been happy with Dell and Thinkpads,
>>         and been
>>         unhappy with Vaio. My own experience is supported by comments
>>         from
>>         friends and what I've read on the web.
>>
>>         Now that I've said this, I'm sure someone will respond with
>>         exactly the
>>         opposite. But I'm very interested in the answers.
>>
>>         Michael
>>
>>
>>         On Thu, 17 Nov 2005, maillists wrote:
>>
>>        > Hi,
>>        >
>>        > I am looking for a good choice of laptops to use with
>>         Gentoo.
>>        >
>>        > I would like to use my pre-titanium  firewire powerbook
>>         500mhz G3
>>        > (pezzo) Also I have a G3 ibook (clamshell) that I would like
>>         to convert.
>>        >
>>        > Does anybody have experience with these models?
>>        > Does anybody know of any laptops to avoid with Gentoo?
>>        >
>>        > Thanks
>>        > Rick
>>        > --
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>>        >
>>        >
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Re: [gentoo-laptop] Laptop Advise

[The Slash]

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If I were you, I'd stay away from Dell. They like to use hardware from SiS,
most of which is not entirely (or at all) supported.

On 11/17/05, michael@michaelshiloh.com <michael@michaelshiloh.com> wrote:
>
> If you don't want to risk your OS 9 software until you are sure it will
> work with linux, you can use a live CD. If the live cd doesn't support
> everything you need, you can modify and create your own custom live cd.
>
>
> On Thu, 17 Nov 2005, maillists wrote:
>
> > Thanks!
> >
> > My budget is very low (under $800.) I have more time than money! I guess
> > I would like to know if there is any laptop that I should stay away
> > from.
> >
> > I would really like to convert my existing laptops (mac powerbook pezzo,
> > and ibook clamshell) Otherwise I would look around for a used dell, IBM,
> > sony, or whatever.
> >
> > One thing I am looking for is if the hardware on the powerbook pezzo is
> > supported (firewire, dvdrom drive, duel batteries, usb, airport card,
> > additional display, modem, networking and sound)
> >
> > I am very interested in using my powerbook for editing video/audio.
> > Right now I have MacOS 9. with Final Cut Pro.
> > I have not upgraded to OSX because I would have to update my Final Cut
> > Pro and adobe stuff too. I would rather set up some kind of "video for
> > linux" solution instead. All my desktops in my office are Gentoo, so I
> > would like to be consistent with my laptop.
> >
> > Thanks again!
> > Rick
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, 2005-11-17 at 18:51 +0000, Truong NINH wrote:
> >> What is your budget?
> >> Iam using Averatec 6240 and more than happy with it. Everything is
> >> working like charm, all driver supported with Linux.
> >>
> >> On 11/17/05, michael@michaelshiloh.com <michael@michaelshiloh.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> As a very gross rule, I've been happy with Dell and Thinkpads,
> >> and been
> >> unhappy with Vaio. My own experience is supported by comments
> >> from
> >> friends and what I've read on the web.
> >>
> >> Now that I've said this, I'm sure someone will respond with
> >> exactly the
> >> opposite. But I'm very interested in the answers.
> >>
> >> Michael
> >>
> >>
> >> On Thu, 17 Nov 2005, maillists wrote:
> >>
> >> > Hi,
> >> >
> >> > I am looking for a good choice of laptops to use with
> >> Gentoo.
> >> >
> >> > I would like to use my pre-titanium firewire powerbook
> >> 500mhz G3
> >> > (pezzo) Also I have a G3 ibook (clamshell) that I would like
> >> to convert.
> >> >
> >> > Does anybody have experience with these models?
> >> > Does anybody know of any laptops to avoid with Gentoo?
> >> >
> >> > Thanks
> >> > Rick
> >> > --
> >> > gentoo-laptop@gentoo.org mailing list
> >> >
> >> >
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Re: [gentoo-laptop] Laptop Advise

[puskas]

I have a Dell Latitude D600 and it's entirely supported.

See you!

The Slash wrote:
> If I were you, I'd stay away from Dell. They like to use hardware from 
> SiS, most of which is not entirely (or at all) supported.
> 
> On 11/17/05, *michael@michaelshiloh.com 
> <mailto:michael@michaelshiloh.com>* <michael@michaelshiloh.com 
> <mailto:michael@michaelshiloh.com>> wrote:
> 
>     If you don't want to risk your OS 9 software until you are sure it will
>     work with linux, you can use a live CD. If the live cd doesn't support
>     everything you need, you can modify and create your own custom live cd.
> 
> 
>     On Thu, 17 Nov 2005, maillists wrote:
> 
>      > Thanks!
>      >
>      > My budget is very low (under $800.) I have more time than money!
>     I guess
>      > I would like to know if there is any laptop that I should stay away
>      > from.
>      >
>      > I would really like to convert my existing laptops (mac powerbook
>     pezzo,
>      > and ibook clamshell) Otherwise I would look around for a used
>     dell, IBM,
>      > sony, or whatever.
>      >
>      > One thing I am looking for is if the hardware on the powerbook
>     pezzo is
>      > supported (firewire, dvdrom drive, duel batteries, usb, airport card,
>      > additional display, modem, networking and sound)
>      >
>      > I am very interested in using my powerbook for editing video/audio.
>      > Right now I have MacOS 9. with Final Cut Pro.
>      > I have not upgraded to OSX because I would have to update my
>     Final Cut
>      > Pro and adobe stuff too. I would rather set up some kind of
>     "video for
>      > linux" solution instead. All my desktops in my office are Gentoo,
>     so I
>      > would like to be consistent with my laptop.
>      >
>      > Thanks again!
>      > Rick
>      >
>      >
>      >
>      > On Thu, 2005-11-17 at 18:51 +0000, Truong NINH wrote:
>      >> What is your budget?
>      >> Iam using Averatec 6240 and more than happy with it. Everything is
>      >> working like charm, all driver supported with Linux.
>      >>
>      >> On 11/17/05, michael@michaelshiloh.com
>     <mailto:michael@michaelshiloh.com> < michael@michaelshiloh.com
>     <mailto:michael@michaelshiloh.com>>
>      >> wrote:
>      >>         As a very gross rule, I've been happy with Dell and
>     Thinkpads,
>      >>         and been
>      >>         unhappy with Vaio. My own experience is supported by
>     comments
>      >>         from
>      >>         friends and what I've read on the web.
>      >>
>      >>         Now that I've said this, I'm sure someone will respond with
>      >>         exactly the
>      >>         opposite. But I'm very interested in the answers.
>      >>
>      >>         Michael
>      >>
>      >>
>      >>         On Thu, 17 Nov 2005, maillists wrote:
>      >>
>      >>        > Hi,
>      >>        >
>      >>        > I am looking for a good choice of laptops to use with
>      >>         Gentoo.
>      >>        >
>      >>        > I would like to use my pre-titanium  firewire powerbook
>      >>         500mhz G3
>      >>        > (pezzo) Also I have a G3 ibook (clamshell) that I would
>     like
>      >>         to convert.
>      >>        >
>      >>        > Does anybody have experience with these models?
>      >>        > Does anybody know of any laptops to avoid with Gentoo?
>      >>        >
>      >>        > Thanks
>      >>        > Rick
>      >>        > --
>      >>        > gentoo-laptop@gentoo.org
>     <mailto:gentoo-laptop@gentoo.org> mailing list
>      >>        >
>      >>        >
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Re: [gentoo-laptop] Laptop Advise

[Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.]

On Thursday 17 November 2005 04:37 pm, puskas wrote:
> I have a Dell Latitude D600 and it's entirely supported.

My D610 also seems well supported, although I have yet to enable (or 
require) the accelerated 3D.

Network card: tg3
Wireless card: ndiswrapper
Video: ati-drivers (frglx)
Audio: Intel AC'97 (intel8x0)
Bluetooth looks like it works but I don't use it.
PCMCIA looks like it works but I don't use it. (yenta_socket)
All 3 pointers work, at the same time in X.
Had a few problems playing the one DVD I tried, but I could read all the 
files on the disk fine.
Battery seems to last longer in linux than windows, when using the 
conservative governor.

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Re: [gentoo-laptop] Laptop Advise

[The Slash]

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If there is no accelerated 3D, then it's not entirely supported, then is it?
I have that problem on my box as well, but I'm thinking of replacing the
video card soon anyways.

On 11/17/05, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. <bss03@volumehost.com> wrote:
>
> On Thursday 17 November 2005 04:37 pm, puskas wrote:
> > I have a Dell Latitude D600 and it's entirely supported.
>
> My D610 also seems well supported, although I have yet to enable (or
> require) the accelerated 3D.
>
> Network card: tg3
> Wireless card: ndiswrapper
> Video: ati-drivers (frglx)
> Audio: Intel AC'97 (intel8x0)
> Bluetooth looks like it works but I don't use it.
> PCMCIA looks like it works but I don't use it. (yenta_socket)
> All 3 pointers work, at the same time in X.
> Had a few problems playing the one DVD I tried, but I could read all the
> files on the disk fine.
> Battery seems to last longer in linux than windows, when using the
> conservative governor.
>
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Re: [gentoo-laptop] Laptop Advise

[Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.]

On Thursday 17 November 2005 06:26 pm, The Slash wrote:
> On 11/17/05, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. <bss03@volumehost.com> wrote:
> > On Thursday 17 November 2005 04:37 pm, puskas wrote:
> > > I have a Dell Latitude D600 and it's entirely supported.
> >
> > My D610 also seems well supported, although I have yet to enable
> > (or require) the accelerated 3D.
> >
> > Video: ati-drivers (frglx)
>
> If there is no accelerated 3D, then it's not entirely supported, then
> is it? I have that problem on my box as well, but I'm thinking of
> replacing the video card soon anyways.

I said well, not entirely.  (That was the other poster, talking about a 
D600 which, surprisingly enough, is completely different from a D610.)  
That said, the Gentoo wiki and other sources on the Internet indicate 
that accelerated 3D is available on this model of laptop, with this 
card.

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Re: [gentoo-laptop] Laptop Advise

[michael]

Not sure I'd do it, but I read somewhere that the walmart computer
supports gentoo well. was it on this mailinglist? it's under $500 and
runs linspire, so it's 90% (or whatever) of the way there.

http://media.linspire.com/walmart/

On Thu, 17 Nov 2005, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:

> On Thursday 17 November 2005 04:37 pm, puskas wrote:
>> I have a Dell Latitude D600 and it's entirely supported.
>
> My D610 also seems well supported, although I have yet to enable (or
> require) the accelerated 3D.
>
> Network card: tg3
> Wireless card: ndiswrapper
> Video: ati-drivers (frglx)
> Audio: Intel AC'97 (intel8x0)
> Bluetooth looks like it works but I don't use it.
> PCMCIA looks like it works but I don't use it. (yenta_socket)
> All 3 pointers work, at the same time in X.
> Had a few problems playing the one DVD I tried, but I could read all the
> files on the disk fine.
> Battery seems to last longer in linux than windows, when using the
> conservative governor.
>
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Re: [gentoo-laptop] Laptop Advise

[Wojciech Polak]

Hi,

Above all avoid Intel 8xx, 9xx graphics cards. They work as shit and you
will spend weeks for configuring it (especially glx mode). But probably
you don't have such concerns with Apple

Regards
Wojtek

On Thu, 2005-11-17 at 13:24 -0500, maillists wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I am looking for a good choice of laptops to use with Gentoo.
> 
> I would like to use my pre-titanium  firewire powerbook 500mhz G3
> (pezzo) Also I have a G3 ibook (clamshell) that I would like to convert.
> 
> Does anybody have experience with these models?
> Does anybody know of any laptops to avoid with Gentoo? 
> 
> Thanks
> Rick



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Re: [gentoo-laptop] Laptop Advise

[Wojciech Polak]

I use Dell Latitude D410 which works fantastic. Only the graphics
chipset (intel) doesn't work in glx mode. Stable releases of Xorg
doesn't support i810 driver and you would have to install 6.8.99 masked
version. However glx mode doesn't work with or without dri snaphots
patched or not. 

The funny thing is that loading any of the kernel modules related to
acpi slows down the computer (don't know how) without installing acpi
daemon nor cpufreqd just modprobing ie: speedstep-centrino does it.
(2.6.13, 2.6.14 kernels)

Wojtek

On Thu, 2005-11-17 at 10:38 -0800, michael@michaelshiloh.com wrote:
> As a very gross rule, I've been happy with Dell and Thinkpads, and been
> unhappy with Vaio. My own experience is supported by comments from
> friends and what I've read on the web.
> 
> Now that I've said this, I'm sure someone will respond with exactly the
> opposite. But I'm very interested in the answers.
> 
> Michael
> 
> 
> On Thu, 17 Nov 2005, maillists wrote:
> 
> > Hi,
> >
> > I am looking for a good choice of laptops to use with Gentoo.
> >
> > I would like to use my pre-titanium  firewire powerbook 500mhz G3
> > (pezzo) Also I have a G3 ibook (clamshell) that I would like to convert.
> >
> > Does anybody have experience with these models?
> > Does anybody know of any laptops to avoid with Gentoo?
> >
> > Thanks
> > Rick
> > -- 
> > gentoo-laptop@gentoo.org mailing list
> >
> >



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Re: [gentoo-laptop] Laptop Advise

[Benjamin Smee (strerror)]

lo,

FWIW my advice is look at the fujitsu range, they are all well supported under 
linux and run beautifully. Personally I have a p7010D and it is fully 
supported with the exception of the fingerprint scanner, but I have some 
hopes for that as well.

On Friday 18 November 2005 08:29, Wojciech Polak wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Above all avoid Intel 8xx, 9xx graphics cards. They work as shit and you
> will spend weeks for configuring it (especially glx mode). But probably
> you don't have such concerns with Apple

FUD. I have mine working flawlessly.


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Re: [gentoo-laptop] Laptop Advise

[Wojciech Polak]

What version of X do you use and how did you make it working

Wojtek


> >
> > Above all avoid Intel 8xx, 9xx graphics cards. They work as shit and you
> > will spend weeks for configuring it (especially glx mode). But probably
> > you don't have such concerns with Apple
> 
> FUD. I have mine working flawlessly.
> 
> 



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Tresc tej wiadomosci zawiera informacje poufne, przeznaczone tylko dla adresata.
Udostepnianie, ujawnianie, powielanie, rozpowszechnianie badz powolywanie sie na jakikolwiek jej fragment przez inne osoby jest zabronione. W razie przypadkowego otrzymania tej wiadomosci, prosimy o powiadomienie o tym nadawcy oraz trwale jej usuniecie.

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Re: [gentoo-laptop] Laptop Advise

[Thomas Tuttle]

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On November 18 at 03:29 EST, Wojciech Polak hastily scribbled:
> Above all avoid Intel 8xx, 9xx graphics cards. They work as shit and you
> will spend weeks for configuring it (especially glx mode). But probably
> you don't have such concerns with Apple
Could you explain DRI vs. GLX?  I set up DRI but never (had to?) mess
with GLX.  Can I get more performance if I configure it somehow.

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Hehehehehehe... that's funny.  Maybe if it's confidential you shouldn't
have sent it to an email list. ;-)  I hate automatic disclaimers.

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Re: [gentoo-laptop] Laptop Advise

[Wojciech Polak]

DRI - Direct Rendering Interface is (I think) the opengl mode

try $glxgears to see performance of your video card

try "glxinfo | grep direct" to see if direct rendering is enabled

I had direct rendering enabled in /var/log/Xorg.0.log and disabled in
glxinfo

So far I haven't resolved it (probably wrong libGL library) but I've
given up

On my i915 card I get around 700-800 fps on glxgears and it should be
1500-1800 with direct rendering enabled

Have a good time with DRI

Wojtek

On Fri, 2005-11-18 at 08:25 -0500, Thomas Tuttle wrote:
> On November 18 at 03:29 EST, Wojciech Polak hastily scribbled:
> > Above all avoid Intel 8xx, 9xx graphics cards. They work as shit and you
> > will spend weeks for configuring it (especially glx mode). But probably
> > you don't have such concerns with Apple
> Could you explain DRI vs. GLX?  I set up DRI but never (had to?) mess
> with GLX.  Can I get more performance if I configure it somehow.
> 
> > This is a confidential e-mail intended solely for the use of the addressee(s). Unauthorized publication, use, dissemination or disclosure of this message, either in whole or in part is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error please send it back to the sender and delete it.
> 
> Hehehehehehe... that's funny.  Maybe if it's confidential you shouldn't
> have sent it to an email list. ;-)  I hate automatic disclaimers.
> 

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Re: [gentoo-laptop] Laptop Advise

[Brian Bulkowski]

I had no problems with an Intel 915. This was on the Dell Inspiron 1200, 
which is a $600 laptop and works pretty well with linux. I can't 
recommend that laptop because the keyboard is *terrible*. It has a funny 
lip at the bottom end that drives me crazy. All the hardware support is 
fine, though.

The X versions were recent (fedora core 3 installed perfectly first 
time, then ran the update systems to bring uptodate), and gentoo 2005.1 
with full updates about a month back. With the gentoo system I did a 
phase I, but everything was great - there's a driver, and it runs fine.

On gentoo I believe I was using framebuffer support, so no 3D. That 
doesn't bother me - Grand Theft Auto doesn't run on Gentoo yet. And, on 
gentoo, I was running command line only.

The one problem I had with the Inspiron 1200 was 16-bit cardbus support. 
Apparently you have to figure out the memory exclude areas yourself. New 
changes in the 2.6.13+ kernels are supposed to fix that --- but really, 
most of my cardbus stuff is 32-bit anyway.

-brianb

Wojciech Polak wrote:

>What version of X do you use and how did you make it working
>
>Wojtek
>
>
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>
>>>Above all avoid Intel 8xx, 9xx graphics cards. They work as shit and you
>>>will spend weeks for configuring it (especially glx mode). But probably
>>>you don't have such concerns with Apple
>>>      
>>>
>>FUD. I have mine working flawlessly.
>>
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>Tresc tej wiadomosci zawiera informacje poufne, przeznaczone tylko dla adresata.
>Udostepnianie, ujawnianie, powielanie, rozpowszechnianie badz powolywanie sie na jakikolwiek jej fragment przez inne osoby jest zabronione. W razie przypadkowego otrzymania tej wiadomosci, prosimy o powiadomienie o tym nadawcy oraz trwale jej usuniecie.
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Re: [gentoo-laptop] Laptop Advise

[Thomas Tuttle]

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On November 18 at 10:20 EST, Wojciech Polak hastily scribbled:
> On my i915 card I get around 700-800 fps on glxgears and it should be
> 1500-1800 with direct rendering enabled

Set it to 16-bit instead of 24-bit.  For a small loss of color depth you
will get triple or quadruple the speed.

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