From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D1B4198005 for ; Mon, 25 Feb 2013 17:27:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7C6CAE0268; Mon, 25 Feb 2013 17:27:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ye0-f177.google.com (mail-ye0-f177.google.com [209.85.213.177]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D3962E01F1 for ; Mon, 25 Feb 2013 17:27:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ye0-f177.google.com with SMTP id m12so157245yen.8 for ; Mon, 25 Feb 2013 09:27:28 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=4cpGpovoSuqHgAJCwj9lzaA1E9HWY4OfZowK67O+wgw=; b=PGGMp49ytvGtQCBbHHJ2YiXmCn15ywyLXDuVZbao7suoCYHkl8klrzWFDMwMt5ucJ5 GCiI++y7OylSs2dlkIST/6tDSeNEaVqwwJapPLXCLs27CDGJB/ymotoRIPvPWdSRkR3N RLzXuOW5zwWpJ9Y1HR8anUFAE6GsfWvpT24YgofYWSQc9qzEx5TyHZMLlzl0u/w/Fe+7 G3wIQH8U/4NRy9YDQ/sPmDX1IB6aOwAaLlHL4b8eFaSbcpZ0UePAktw4Aca5lE/Dq+oM pL/CsUD9TCaY+2nGjxEdFjBtLOLg59aeMoLl+sPCdHV5elVf/mYMQD6obL+po2Dp7eFh J9qg== X-Received: by 10.236.138.109 with SMTP id z73mr20199197yhi.72.1361813248509; Mon, 25 Feb 2013 09:27:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from [128.61.29.210] (lawn-128-61-29-210.lawn.gatech.edu. [128.61.29.210]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id w2sm26549625yhh.7.2013.02.25.09.27.26 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 25 Feb 2013 09:27:27 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <512B9EF9.7080509@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2013 12:27:21 -0500 From: "Gino!" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130224 Thunderbird/17.0.3 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-kernel@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-kernel@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-kernel@lists.gentoo.org Subject: [gentoo-kernel] Re: Which Kernel? References: <20130225142608.GA13945@kroah.com> In-Reply-To: <20130225142608.GA13945@kroah.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: c5d14b93-ecc5-4554-9775-fac450060a33 X-Archives-Hash: 910f4073407aeb9566bc7fa7dead2953 Firstly thanks for all your great responses... On 02/25/2013 09:26 AM, Greg KH wrote: > On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 01:05:01AM -0500, Gino! wrote: >> So, it seems like gentoo-sources loves EOL kernels.. >> can anybody tell me why this is, it seems like that would be a bad thing... >> I always move up to the latest amd64 stable, but 3.7.9 is super buggy >> (nvidia and aufs3 complain among others) > > What is "super buggy" about 3.7.9? Have you reported this anywhere? > I as a stable packages only, style gentoo user have an (perhaps unrealistic), expectation that kernels that go stable have some vetting process with all other stable packages, and I can expect no failed interactions between things.. this is not yet true with 3.7.9... > Also, 3.7.y upstream is about to go end-of-life, so you really should > move to 3.8 soon. > >> so I'm staying at 3.6.11... > > Why that one? It's been end-of-life for a while now, with known > security issues... > I just happen to be here at the moment, I will probably roll back to 3.4.9, my computer is fairly new but not bleeding edge.. >> although I would feel allot more comfortable with something like >> 3.4.33!! but its at 3.4.9... >> >> Do you gentoo-sources folks recommend a particular release for Long Term >> Stable ongoing support??? > > If you have to have something like this, then use the versions that > upstream is saying is going to be "long term", meaning the 3.0 or 3.4 > releases. But note that new hardware will not work on these releases, > so you will be out of luck if you have really modern hardware, sorry. > >> Thats the one i want to use. > > Why? What does something like this buy you in a rolling-release distro > like Gentoo? I would prefer to not constantly use new kernel implementations, sometimes new features come out, and I may need some old package, that depends on the older feature.. I would like for it to operate smoothly.. my most recent example of this would be changes to how wireless drivers are implemented, the new stuff is great but if my old packages don't work, its no good for me. I would like an (*slightly) older kernel that maintains security patches and maintenance repairs for a long period of time.. I don't feel I *need any new features, what I got is great feature wise :).. just keep it repaired and tidy! thats what I look for in a kernel. does that answer your question? > > thanks, > > greg k-h > > TA. Gino