From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC7291381F3 for ; Sat, 6 Jul 2013 19:56:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2515FE0AB1; Sat, 6 Jul 2013 19:56:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from out1-smtp.messagingengine.com (out1-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8B610E0A7D for ; Sat, 6 Jul 2013 19:56:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from compute2.internal (compute2.nyi.mail.srv.osa [10.202.2.42]) by gateway1.nyi.mail.srv.osa (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9D8320C6C for ; Sat, 6 Jul 2013 15:56:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from frontend2.nyi.mail.srv.osa ([10.202.2.161]) by compute2.internal (MEProxy); Sat, 06 Jul 2013 15:56:17 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id :references:mime-version:content-type:in-reply-to; s=smtpout; bh=Spc098jjjADtuKSi9UNfCwFKynk=; b=O2Kb5Yp/Wn7JmGVfl4ceLIDFQvUl +Rbpd7m0taI1IaviWYvp91d6oXMdWc7LYgoBMr+DWXEyXboXepbp1vagiUySPkwR 5Sf2VV7VvUYbJSuaRajMLmEGnL9mOKRQVQDuUKr0Hlbc8B45Rpnx43hwI5uFFkUo zE5axYrG6+h8wtY= X-Sasl-enc: xBuiJMTypUwIO7bhOjx7G0+3FABeFryseY24WBq5g7Vf 1373140577 Received: from localhost (unknown [76.28.172.123]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 754856801FC; Sat, 6 Jul 2013 15:56:17 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2013 12:56:16 -0700 From: Greg KH To: gentoo-kernel@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-kernel] vanilla-kernel sources should not be marked stable for obsolete versions Message-ID: <20130706195616.GA20789@kroah.com> References: <20130621145801.GA5202@kroah.com> <20130622020259.7a411a7a@TOMWIJ-GENTOO> <20130622001303.GA2278@kroah.com> <20130622024516.3a51911e@TOMWIJ-GENTOO> <20130622034243.GA2058@kroah.com> <20130622084525.2d1fa03f@TOMWIJ-GENTOO> <20130624162710.GA16499@kroah.com> <20130627194504.GA22153@woodpecker.gentoo.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-kernel@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-kernel@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20130627194504.GA22153@woodpecker.gentoo.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Archives-Salt: 053d5399-47a7-4575-b90b-312c57f44192 X-Archives-Hash: bc27dfcd3ab30cd7cfedae84356221d1 On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 03:45:04PM -0400, Mike Pagano wrote: > Are we agreed on a few facts? > > 1. Upstream release rate is now a much higher 1-2 kernels a week. > 2. Very frequently, these releases contain security fixes. > 3. This rate of release puts arch teams in a difficult position, since > it is unsustainable to try to keep up tp date with stabilization > 4. By continuing the policy of providing a stable kernel version, Gentoo > is giving a false sense of security to its users, since by the time the > kernel does get stabilized, a newer version more with more security > fixes is almost always already released. I agree with all of this, so, who is going to create the news item? I think we should do this before 3.10.1 is out, just to start it all during a new kernel release cycle, which should happen by the end of next week, pending something causing me to delay it. thanks, greg k-h