From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B44661381F3 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 2013 16:26:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 98C7DE0962; Mon, 24 Jun 2013 16:26:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from out1-smtp.messagingengine.com (out1-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0DB0BE08EA for ; Mon, 24 Jun 2013 16:26:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from compute4.internal (compute4.nyi.mail.srv.osa [10.202.2.44]) by gateway2.nyi.mail.srv.osa (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8599020E46 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 2013 12:26:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from frontend1.nyi.mail.srv.osa ([10.202.2.160]) by compute4.internal (MEProxy); Mon, 24 Jun 2013 12:26:30 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id :references:mime-version:content-type:in-reply-to; s=smtpout; bh=cm8G+f8wja+rk5Pm+3AHI5X8CVI=; b=m7zfGyBt6ZBvIJroWgrGmRiPoquP HK941uFObRn2km/R17s381TPwzhB5WUU8GETKJWiD2Uj5pdTAgigEx1ztlk8cYag vPd2O834NgWwZsb0LSIn4XmbiDI9FgLkjp4s9p6ZiLFvJWslatsfUdytLAAxF9Hm ZRMKjJU3tTYntQs= X-Sasl-enc: NqFw7bXa3Ki2P1pmY5Gm/Kz4h2GJq4T0COAZZaeiBu23 1372091189 Received: from localhost (unknown [63.231.43.16]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id D72F4C00E86; Mon, 24 Jun 2013 12:26:29 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2013 09:27:10 -0700 From: Greg KH To: gentoo-kernel@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-kernel] vanilla-kernel sources should not be marked stable for obsolete versions Message-ID: <20130624162710.GA16499@kroah.com> References: <20130621145801.GA5202@kroah.com> <20130622020259.7a411a7a@TOMWIJ-GENTOO> <20130622001303.GA2278@kroah.com> <20130622024516.3a51911e@TOMWIJ-GENTOO> <20130622034243.GA2058@kroah.com> <20130622084525.2d1fa03f@TOMWIJ-GENTOO> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-kernel@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-kernel@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20130622084525.2d1fa03f@TOMWIJ-GENTOO> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Archives-Salt: 1b5f4506-ca84-49dd-b3b5-579f79bca070 X-Archives-Hash: 17332e6c7adb9d4f29adbeefc74d89d1 On Sat, Jun 22, 2013 at 08:45:25AM +0200, Tom Wijsman wrote: > On Fri, 21 Jun 2013 20:42:44 -0700 > Greg KH wrote: > > > On Sat, Jun 22, 2013 at 02:45:16AM +0200, Tom Wijsman wrote: > > > On Fri, 21 Jun 2013 17:13:03 -0700 > > > Greg KH wrote: > > > > > > > Great! But as only the latest version released is "stable", > > > > that's all that should stick around, right? > > > > > > Tricky decision to make. Do we really want to force people's kernel > > > sources to unmerge every single time you push a new version? Which > > > on its own turn, forces them to build and install the new kernel. > > > > If they are following the vanilla kernels, isn't that what people > > expect? The latest stable-kernel-of-the-week, as that's what I'm > > releasing. They don't have to do an update if they don't want to :) > > If we don't keep around other ebuilds their sources will unexpectedly > unmerge upon a dependency clean; they can only stop it if they see it > in the list of packages that will be unmerged, and do something to > specifically keep them. True, so we can keep around 3-4 older ebuilds if needed, per kernel release. But who really does a dependency clean these days, I've never done one :) So, what's the next step? Should I announce the change to -dev? Anyone else really object to it? Other thoughts? thanks, greg k-h