[gentoo-kernel] Re: [gentoo-dev] Looking for help with kernel maintenance

[gentoo-kernel] Re: [gentoo-dev] Looking for help with kernel maintenance

[Nicolas Sebrecht]

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My first post was on the gentoo-dev mailing list.
Thank you Duncan for your answer. I already use to read lwm.net articles.
I will look for John's stuff.
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On Wed, Dec 03, 2008 at 04:24:26PM +0000, Daniel Drake wrote:
>
> Nicolas,
>
> Nicolas Sebrecht wrote:
>> I would like to go further in the Linux kernel internal comprehension.
>> Could someone tell me where to find a good starting free documentation ?
>> Most of the documentations I've found are about old kernel versions (2.4
>> series).
>
> Ask this on the gentoo-kernel list, please. I'm happy to help, but there 
> are many people there who would also appreciate being part of the 
> discussion.

Yeah, sorry.

Does someone knows a good general (and free) documentation where to
start ?

-- 
Nicolas Sebrecht

Re: [gentoo-kernel] Re: [gentoo-dev] Looking for help with kernel maintenance

[Alexander Ramos Jardim]

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Well you can read the docs generated with the kernel tree: bash$#make
htmldocs
You can take a look at the site http://www.kroah.com/linux/ or this one
http://kernelnewbies.org/

2008/12/4 Nicolas Sebrecht <nicolas.s-dev@laposte.net>

>
> <OT>
> My first post was on the gentoo-dev mailing list.
> Thank you Duncan for your answer. I already use to read lwm.net articles.
> I will look for John's stuff.
> </>
>
> On Wed, Dec 03, 2008 at 04:24:26PM +0000, Daniel Drake wrote:
> >
> > Nicolas,
> >
> > Nicolas Sebrecht wrote:
> >> I would like to go further in the Linux kernel internal comprehension.
> >> Could someone tell me where to find a good starting free documentation ?
> >> Most of the documentations I've found are about old kernel versions (2.4
> >> series).
> >
> > Ask this on the gentoo-kernel list, please. I'm happy to help, but there
> > are many people there who would also appreciate being part of the
> > discussion.
>
> Yeah, sorry.
>
> Does someone knows a good general (and free) documentation where to
> start ?
>
> --
> Nicolas Sebrecht
>
>
>


-- 
Alexander Ramos Jardim

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Re: [gentoo-kernel] Re: [gentoo-dev] Looking for help with kernel maintenance

[Ingo Kemper]

Did you already read "Linux Kernel in a Nutshell"?
online: http://www.kroah.com/lkn/
local: emerge linux-kernel-in-a-nutshell

Cite from the above site: "I want this book to help bring more people
into the Linux kernel development fold."

Re: [gentoo-kernel] Re: [gentoo-dev] Looking for help with kernel maintenance

[Daniel Drake]

Nicolas Sebrecht wrote:
> Does someone knows a good general (and free) documentation where to
> start ?

For working with the internals, specifically driver-side stuff and the 
mechanisms you need to write drivers, this book is really good (and free):
http://lwn.net/Kernel/LDD3/

I'm also fond of this book which complements LDD3 nicely (it talks about 
the scheduler, memory management, and a lot of other non-driver stuff 
which LDD3 purposefully omits):
http://rlove.org/
It's not free though.

Daniel

Re: [gentoo-kernel] Re: [gentoo-dev] Looking for help with kernel maintenance

[Branko Badrljica]

Daniel Drake wrote:
> Nicolas Sebrecht wrote:
>> Does someone knows a good general (and free) documentation where to
>> start ?
>
> For working with the internals, specifically driver-side stuff and the 
> mechanisms you need to write drivers, this book is really good (and 
> free):
> http://lwn.net/Kernel/LDD3/
>
> I'm also fond of this book which complements LDD3 nicely (it talks 
> about the scheduler, memory management, and a lot of other non-driver 
> stuff which LDD3 purposefully omits):
> http://rlove.org/
> It's not free though.
>
> Daniel
>

After reading/skimming "essentials" and "kernel drivers", my favourite 
way is to use Code::Blocks, make an empty project and then recursively 
import all the kernel sources into it.
It is big pile of source and import takes a few minutes, but being able 
to browse, search and jump effotlessly through the tree more than makes 
it wortwhile.

Caveat: C::B will crash during the import phase if during that time 
there is other program that significantly loads CPUs or if user 
generates gtk events by clicking on the program window.
I suspect the cause for this in wxGTK, but haven't been able to pinpoint 
it. It's good enough for me at this time...

Re: [gentoo-kernel] Re: [gentoo-dev] Looking for help with kernel maintenance

[Nicolas Sebrecht]

Thank you all.
I'll explore following your advices.

-- 
Nicolas Sebrecht

Re: [gentoo-kernel] Re: [gentoo-dev] Looking for help with kernel maintenance

[Archibald Haddock]

Nicolas Sebrecht wrote:
> 
> Thank you all.
> I'll explore following your advices.
> 
Could someone copy my the advices before this message? I was not
registered before that message?

I have a question about names, should I use my real name on all
gentoo-kernel related things? Or are pseudos ok, for protecting the own
privat sphere?

Re: [gentoo-kernel] Re: [gentoo-dev] Looking for help with kernel maintenance

[Nicolas Sebrecht]

On Sun, Dec 07, 2008 at 01:13:36AM +0100, Archibald Haddock wrote:

> Could someone copy my the advices before this message? I was not
> registered before that message?

You can get the messages from the archives at
http://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-kernel/ for this mailing-list in
particular or at
http://archives.gentoo.org/ in general.

> I have a question about names, should I use my real name on all
> gentoo-kernel related things? Or are pseudos ok, for protecting the own
> privat sphere?

You can use whatever you want. As we don't have anything to hide here,
most use their real name. There is no duty.

-- 
Nicolas Sebrecht