From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.54) id 1FcKLA-00055d-1V for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sat, 06 May 2006 10:48:48 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.6/8.13.6) with SMTP id k46AmaM5010691; Sat, 6 May 2006 10:48:36 GMT Received: from nz-out-0102.google.com (nz-out-0102.google.com [64.233.162.195]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k46AmYFD019250 for ; Sat, 6 May 2006 10:48:35 GMT Received: by nz-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id n29so808199nzf for ; Sat, 06 May 2006 03:48:34 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=qv67aMmPlMwrSmhdTq0ftmJE+iGDuLQdEVS8ziJPyW9OKf44Ue67sPJJve7xRn+7BnbQAjA2yh9MWjbSH9KMN5gmEVERSrnPPzLI8PWo6iHbjpNuLb1fGRsWHOdcu8kaxrwWVGubiQbdu377rHXjNMhOFt+bQuqdnJW3Im4B5j0= Received: by 10.64.184.10 with SMTP id h10mr48829qbf; Sat, 06 May 2006 03:48:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.65.253.16 with HTTP; Sat, 6 May 2006 03:48:34 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 6 May 2006 11:48:34 +0100 From: "robert burrell donkin" To: gentoo-java Subject: Re: [gentoo-java] Java ideas for Summer of Code In-Reply-To: <445B6D6A.10203@gentoo.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-java@gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_15774_14584193.1146912514394" References: <445A37CE.1000305@gentoo.org> <445B6D6A.10203@gentoo.org> X-Archives-Salt: 5414c4fb-256f-4e5d-abe1-26b9b8afdc94 X-Archives-Hash: ce73cf1d1c1230afff6d23075cc0a3bd ------=_Part_15774_14584193.1146912514394 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On 5/5/06, Joshua Nichols wrote: > > robert burrell donkin wrote: > > On 5/4/06, *Joshua Nichols* > why the emphasis on software libre? > > > And I think you're reading too much into what I said. By libre, I really > mean open source. good :-) > why exclude ASL'd libraries from the effort? > ASL? Do you mean the Apache license? yep In either case, I don't recall > saying anything about excluding anything. ASL2 is still incompatible with GPL2 free java means rebuilding the complete stack including replacements for al= l ASL'd applications and libraries. so there's a little bit of politics in th= e mix. > why not open source java? > > > Uh, open source java is EXACTLY what I'm talking about :) good :-) gump (http://gump.apache.org/) builds and tests 700 projects from source each day. IIRC the classpath team run gump. might be able to dig out an url if you're interested in seeing the current level of progress. in general, finding a way to generate EBUILDs from gump descriptors would make available a lot of libraries and applications without extensive effort= . a maven EBUILD plugin would be even better. apache has a lot of API implementations but they are scattered amongst different projects. it would probably be generally a good thing if they wer= e more easily accessible. fixing that would also be a big gain for a small amount of effort. In the future, be sure to reply on-list. yeh sorry (mumbles something about gmail) - robert ------=_Part_15774_14584193.1146912514394 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On 5/5/06, Joshua Nichols <nichoj@gentoo.org> wrote:
robert burrell donkin wrote:
> On 5/4/06, *Joshua Nichols* <nichoj@gentoo.org

<snip>

> wh= y the emphasis on software libre?
>
And I think you're reading too= much into what I said. By libre, I really
mean open source.

good :-) 

> why exclude ASL'd libraries from the effort?
ASL? Do you mea= n the Apache license?=20

yep 

> wh= y not open source java?
>
Uh, open source java is EXACTLY what I'm= talking about :)

good :-)
 
gump (http://gump.apache.org/) buil= ds and tests 700 projects from source each day. IIRC the classpath team run gump. might be able to dig out an url if you're interested in seeing the current level of progress.

in general, finding a way to generate EBUILDs from gump descriptors would make available a lot of libraries and applications without extensive effort. a maven EBUILD plugin would be even better.

apache has a lot of API implementations but they are scattered amongst different projects. it would probably be generally a good thing if they were more easily accessible. fixing that would also be a big gain for a small amount of effort.

In the futu= re, be sure to reply on-list.

 yeh sorry (mumbles something about gmail)

- robert

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