From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1GMArN-00035a-DB for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sat, 09 Sep 2006 21:59:33 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.8/8.13.6) with SMTP id k89LwWvK000444; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 21:58:32 GMT Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.8/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k89LwTqV027168 for ; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 21:58:32 GMT Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD50F6468C for ; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 21:58:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.gentoo.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 29426-12 for ; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 21:58:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24A3F64614 for ; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 21:57:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1GMApX-00011O-Uc for gentoo-java@gentoo.org; Sat, 09 Sep 2006 23:57:39 +0200 Received: from s01060004e2917d65.vc.shawcable.net ([24.84.131.197]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 09 Sep 2006 23:57:39 +0200 Received: from hawat.thufir by s01060004e2917d65.vc.shawcable.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 09 Sep 2006 23:57:39 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: gentoo-java@lists.gentoo.org From: Thufir Subject: [gentoo-java] gcj, maven, the GPL and ebuild Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2006 22:56:51 +0100 Message-ID: Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-java@gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: s01060004e2917d65.vc.shawcable.net Sender: news X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at gentoo.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.427 required=5.5 tests=[AWL=0.095, BAYES_00=-2.599, TW_GC=0.077] X-Spam-Score: -2.427 X-Spam-Level: X-Archives-Salt: d7932a1a-8dea-444f-9e12-01d7088ed0bf X-Archives-Hash: ea9ebf09dd714f93ccac79521b5f7b9f I've been sifting through the archives on these topics and would like a status report on java. stat ;) The best thing would be for gcj to catch-up to Java 5, but that won't be for a while. There are several threads about ebuilds auto-magically fetching a Sun JRE or JDK, displaying a license and then installing. That also would be nice in a more perfect world, but fetching a binary via the web browser every now and then isn't the greatest inconvenience in the world. However, even were the Sun JDK easily installed as described above, it'd still be masked, as I understand, due to some source files in Gentoo not working with Java 5 due to problems with reserved words. Then there's the philosophical problem with distributing compiled classes instead of building a java app from source. Finally, I was amazed to read that maven is, apparently, windows-centric. Very disappointing. The bottom line appears to be that java for Linux sucked, got better, but still sucks and will continue to suck for the foreseeable future. Yes? -Thufir -- gentoo-java@gentoo.org mailing list