Re: [gentoo-java] Re: Sun JDK fetching

[David Herron <David.Herron@Sun.COM>]

Actually we are offering Sun's JDK under a free license that allows  
any Solaris or Linux distribution to redistribute the binary.  I've  
been working with Joshua and Karl to help/advise them on integrating  
Sun's JDK with Gentoo under that new license.

The new license .. the DLJ .. Distribution License for Java or  
something like that .. is meant to enable an operating system  
redistributor, like Gentoo, to easily incorporate Sun's JDK with  
their OS distribution.  The work for Gentoo is in Gentoo's package  
system now and there are instructions on the gentoo.org web site in  
the Java user guide on how to install Sun's JDK alongside other  
JDK's.  I understand the bits are still in the unstable branch.

You can learn about the license and the program at http://jdk- 
distros.dev.java.net/

The DLJ was announced on May 16, 2006 at Java ONE this year.  I see  
that the email you're responding to was written long before we  
announced the DLJ.  I just read the email thread you're responding  
to, and it was a painful walk down memory lane.  Of course the DLJ  
announcement was immediately overshadowed by the other announcement  
that day.  Hopefully between the DLJ license and the imminent  
beginning for open source Java, that we can put all the past pain  
behind us.

- David Herron



On Sep 9, 2006, at 12:07 AM, Thufir wrote:

> On Thu, 12 May 2005, Yannick Menager wrote:
> [...]
>> Circumventing the implicit wishes of the copyright holder ???
> [...]
>> The case with JDocs is very different, they do not provide a  
>> *tool* to
>> download/view/manipulates the J2SE API, they took it, and put it  
>> online
>> on their website, which the license does not allow for.
>>
>> The equivalent of what they did is the equivalent of us putting  
>> the jdk
>> binary in the gentoo mirrors, which is indeed not allowed by the
>> license.
>
> Why does the copyright holder, Sun, not grant the Gentoo Foundation  
> a license to distribute the binary?  Weird territory, but could a  
> license be purchased from Sun for a, hopefully, nominal amount?   
> Or, even, why would Sun want to charge the Gentoo Foundation any  
> money at all?
>
> Which brings up the contract.  I've downloaded and never read the  
> contract, nor do I plan to.  So long as I don't redistribute the  
> JVM, why does Sun even want a contract in the first place?
>
>
> -Thufir
>
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