* Re: [gentoo-java] Weka package cleanup
2007-01-16 20:55 ` Alon Bar-Lev
@ 2007-01-16 22:53 ` Alistair Bush
2007-01-16 23:23 ` Alistair Bush
2007-01-16 23:37 ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2007-01-16 23:35 ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2007-01-19 12:48 ` Petteri Räty
2 siblings, 2 replies; 19+ messages in thread
From: Alistair Bush @ 2007-01-16 22:53 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-java
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How about I start opening bugs on bugs that have already been fixed but not
closed :)
something like
Bug #123456 is open even tho its been fixed.
I wonder what the bug-wranglers would like of that :D
On 1/17/07, Alon Bar-Lev <alon.barlev@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On 1/16/07, Vlastimil Babka <caster@gentoo.org> wrote:
> > > I can help... Moving all packages I use to generation 2...
> >
> > Yeah, migrating packages that one has installed is common :) Maybe then
> > we find the rest isn't that important as not many people use it.
> > Help would be appreciated for sure. But please don't commit that on your
> > own without our review, at least for first attempts. Takes some
> > experience to do it properly (and admittedly, our docs aren't exactly up
> > to date with the eclasses improvements you can for example see in this
> ML).
>
> But you have to promiss me response time...
> I will open a bug for each ebuild, and you review it in... a year? :)
>
> > > My interest is to stop forcing sun-sdk-1.5 as generation 1...
> >
> > It's jdk-1.4 and it will have to be forced in generation 1. The interest
> > is to remove generation 1 :)
>
> NO... I force 1.5 to be generation 1... I don't like to have two sdks
> on my machine.
>
> Best Regards,
> Alon Bar-Lev.
> --
> gentoo-java@gentoo.org mailing list
>
>
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* Re: [gentoo-java] Weka package cleanup
2007-01-16 22:53 ` Alistair Bush
@ 2007-01-16 23:23 ` Alistair Bush
2007-01-16 23:37 ` William L. Thomson Jr.
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From: Alistair Bush @ 2007-01-16 23:23 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-java
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Oh and while i'm at it.
https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=160845
this would be a nice one for a dev to look at :)
On 1/17/07, Alistair Bush <alistair.bush@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> How about I start opening bugs on bugs that have already been fixed but
> not closed :)
>
> something like
>
> Bug #123456 is open even tho its been fixed.
>
> I wonder what the bug-wranglers would like of that :D
>
> On 1/17/07, Alon Bar-Lev <alon.barlev@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > On 1/16/07, Vlastimil Babka <caster@gentoo.org> wrote:
> > > > I can help... Moving all packages I use to generation 2...
> > >
> > > Yeah, migrating packages that one has installed is common :) Maybe
> > then
> > > we find the rest isn't that important as not many people use it.
> > > Help would be appreciated for sure. But please don't commit that on
> > your
> > > own without our review, at least for first attempts. Takes some
> > > experience to do it properly (and admittedly, our docs aren't exactly
> > up
> > > to date with the eclasses improvements you can for example see in this
> > ML).
> >
> > But you have to promiss me response time...
> > I will open a bug for each ebuild, and you review it in... a year? :)
> >
> > > > My interest is to stop forcing sun-sdk-1.5 as generation 1...
> > >
> > > It's jdk-1.4 and it will have to be forced in generation 1. The
> > interest
> > > is to remove generation 1 :)
> >
> > NO... I force 1.5 to be generation 1... I don't like to have two sdks
> > on my machine.
> >
> > Best Regards,
> > Alon Bar-Lev.
> > --
> > gentoo-java@gentoo.org mailing list
> >
> >
>
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* Re: [gentoo-java] Weka package cleanup
2007-01-16 22:53 ` Alistair Bush
2007-01-16 23:23 ` Alistair Bush
@ 2007-01-16 23:37 ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2007-01-17 0:07 ` Alistair Bush
2007-01-17 0:09 ` William L. Thomson Jr.
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From: William L. Thomson Jr. @ 2007-01-16 23:37 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-java
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On Wed, 2007-01-17 at 11:53 +1300, Alistair Bush wrote:
> How about I start opening bugs on bugs that have already been fixed
> but not closed :)
Hmm not sure about that. Buggzie seems stable these days, but still
might be excessive use. Would like to know what others think about that.
> something like
>
> Bug #123456 is open even tho its been fixed.
>
> I wonder what the bug-wranglers would like of that :D
Well another route would be to email bug #, and comments to
java@gentoo.org Then the first dev that gets the email can take comments
add to bug and close the one. Instead of having to close and comment on
two :)
To expand that, you could email over a list of bug #s with comments, to
kill more than one bird with a single stone. ;)
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William L. Thomson Jr.
Gentoo/Java
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* Re: [gentoo-java] Weka package cleanup
2007-01-16 23:37 ` William L. Thomson Jr.
@ 2007-01-17 0:07 ` Alistair Bush
2007-01-17 0:22 ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2007-01-17 0:59 ` Vlastimil Babka
2007-01-17 0:09 ` William L. Thomson Jr.
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From: Alistair Bush @ 2007-01-17 0:07 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-java
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mmm.... yes java@gentoo.org would be a good place instead of here to email
it.
Basically the aim I have for this is too draw the attention of you dev's to
bugs that are a 'quick' fix.
Therefore meeting the aim of closing bugs without you guys having to do most
of the investigation...
I have also though of going thru bugs.gentoo.org and reassigning the
priority of bugs into categories (rather a large job for anyone who has
other projects they want to get kicking).
eg (as a very ruff guess)
So P1 would be for security exploits and the like.
P2 would be for ebuild related buys
P3 ebuild request
P4 ebuild request that are extremely difficult (or just can't happen because
of lack of resources)
P5 (something even worse than above)
I also believe that there should be some bugs marked as WONTFIX, CANTFIX.
For example jboss https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=148383 and
https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=66965
I believe, and it will be interesting in hereing your views on this, that
bugs should only be open if they are actually going to be worked on. With
jboss we now have a binary ebuild in the overlay that could replace the
existing versions and these jboss bugs could be closed.
What do you guys think?
Alistair (ali_bush)
On 1/17/07, William L. Thomson Jr. <wltjr@gentoo.org> wrote:
>
> On Wed, 2007-01-17 at 11:53 +1300, Alistair Bush wrote:
> > How about I start opening bugs on bugs that have already been fixed
> > but not closed :)
>
> Hmm not sure about that. Buggzie seems stable these days, but still
> might be excessive use. Would like to know what others think about that.
>
> > something like
> >
> > Bug #123456 is open even tho its been fixed.
> >
> > I wonder what the bug-wranglers would like of that :D
>
> Well another route would be to email bug #, and comments to
> java@gentoo.org Then the first dev that gets the email can take comments
> add to bug and close the one. Instead of having to close and comment on
> two :)
>
> To expand that, you could email over a list of bug #s with comments, to
> kill more than one bird with a single stone. ;)
>
> --
> William L. Thomson Jr.
> Gentoo/Java
>
>
>
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* Re: [gentoo-java] Weka package cleanup
2007-01-17 0:07 ` Alistair Bush
@ 2007-01-17 0:22 ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2007-01-17 0:59 ` Vlastimil Babka
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From: William L. Thomson Jr. @ 2007-01-17 0:22 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-java
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On Wed, 2007-01-17 at 13:07 +1300, Alistair Bush wrote:
>
> Basically the aim I have for this is too draw the attention of you
> dev's to bugs that are a 'quick' fix.
>
> Therefore meeting the aim of closing bugs without you guys having to
> do most of the investigation...
Sounds good to me :)
> I have also though of going thru bugs.gentoo.org and reassigning the
> priority of bugs into categories
I don't think anyone would really object to that, other than maybe some
bug spam.
> I also believe that there should be some bugs marked as WONTFIX,
> CANTFIX.
Yes, those are great. Would be nice if there was a YOUFIX :)
> For example jboss https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=148383 and
> https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=66965
>
> I believe, and it will be interesting in hereing your views on this,
> that bugs should only be open if they are actually going to be worked
> on.
Well since they are stuff that's in tree, in theory they should remain
open. Till there is an alternative in tree, or fix. Otherwise closing
might just cause someone else to file a new bug instead of finding the
pre-existing closed one.
> With jboss we now have a binary ebuild in the overlay that could
> replace the existing versions and these jboss bugs could be closed.
Adding binary to tree, ew. Bugs closed, good.
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William L. Thomson Jr.
Gentoo/Java
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* Re: [gentoo-java] Weka package cleanup
2007-01-17 0:07 ` Alistair Bush
2007-01-17 0:22 ` William L. Thomson Jr.
@ 2007-01-17 0:59 ` Vlastimil Babka
2007-01-17 1:08 ` Alistair Bush
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From: Vlastimil Babka @ 2007-01-17 0:59 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-java
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Alistair Bush wrote:
> I have also though of going thru bugs.gentoo.org
> <http://bugs.gentoo.org> and reassigning the priority of bugs into
> categories (rather a large job for anyone who has other projects they
> want to get kicking).
And I would love to mark stable/keyword requests in a way that I can
filter them easily. They are assigned to us but we are not the ones
solving them :) Be it a special component or keyword, or some unified
form of summary. I see there are already STABLE and TESTED keywords for
arch testers to mark stuff they've tested, so maybe add something
STABLEREQ and KEYWORDREQ? What do you think? If it's sane, it should
probably be discussed on gentoo-dev as some global policy.
- --
Vlastimil Babka (Caster)
Gentoo/Java
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* Re: [gentoo-java] Weka package cleanup
2007-01-17 0:59 ` Vlastimil Babka
@ 2007-01-17 1:08 ` Alistair Bush
2007-01-17 1:54 ` Alistair Bush
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From: Alistair Bush @ 2007-01-17 1:08 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-java
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That sounds like a good idea.
On 1/17/07, Vlastimil Babka <caster@gentoo.org> wrote:
>
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> Alistair Bush wrote:
> > I have also though of going thru bugs.gentoo.org
> > <http://bugs.gentoo.org> and reassigning the priority of bugs into
> > categories (rather a large job for anyone who has other projects they
> > want to get kicking).
>
> And I would love to mark stable/keyword requests in a way that I can
> filter them easily. They are assigned to us but we are not the ones
> solving them :) Be it a special component or keyword, or some unified
> form of summary. I see there are already STABLE and TESTED keywords for
> arch testers to mark stuff they've tested, so maybe add something
> STABLEREQ and KEYWORDREQ? What do you think? If it's sane, it should
> probably be discussed on gentoo-dev as some global policy.
> - --
> Vlastimil Babka (Caster)
> Gentoo/Java
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* Re: [gentoo-java] Weka package cleanup
2007-01-17 1:08 ` Alistair Bush
@ 2007-01-17 1:54 ` Alistair Bush
2007-01-17 6:39 ` Joshua Nichols
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From: Alistair Bush @ 2007-01-17 1:54 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-java
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Do we still have a list generated that tells us of all the gen-1 packages
remaining?
On 1/17/07, Alistair Bush <alistair.bush@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> That sounds like a good idea.
>
> On 1/17/07, Vlastimil Babka <caster@gentoo.org> wrote:
> >
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> > Alistair Bush wrote:
> > > I have also though of going thru bugs.gentoo.org
> > > <http://bugs.gentoo.org > and reassigning the priority of bugs into
> > > categories (rather a large job for anyone who has other projects they
> > > want to get kicking).
> >
> > And I would love to mark stable/keyword requests in a way that I can
> > filter them easily. They are assigned to us but we are not the ones
> > solving them :) Be it a special component or keyword, or some unified
> > form of summary. I see there are already STABLE and TESTED keywords for
> > arch testers to mark stuff they've tested, so maybe add something
> > STABLEREQ and KEYWORDREQ? What do you think? If it's sane, it should
> > probably be discussed on gentoo-dev as some global policy.
> > - --
> > Vlastimil Babka (Caster)
> > Gentoo/Java
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* Re: [gentoo-java] Weka package cleanup
2007-01-16 23:37 ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2007-01-17 0:07 ` Alistair Bush
@ 2007-01-17 0:09 ` William L. Thomson Jr.
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From: William L. Thomson Jr. @ 2007-01-17 0:09 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-java
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On Tue, 2007-01-16 at 18:37 -0500, William L. Thomson Jr. wrote:
>
> Well another route would be to email bug #, and comments to
> java@gentoo.org Then the first dev that gets the email can take comments
> add to bug and close the one. Instead of having to close and comment on
> two :)
Doh, wasn't thinking. :o Just comment on bug, and it will email
java@gentoo.org Then first one who responds to the email can just close
with minimal comment :)
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Gentoo/Java
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* Re: [gentoo-java] Weka package cleanup
2007-01-16 20:55 ` Alon Bar-Lev
2007-01-16 22:53 ` Alistair Bush
@ 2007-01-16 23:35 ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2007-01-19 12:48 ` Petteri Räty
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From: William L. Thomson Jr. @ 2007-01-16 23:35 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-java
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On Tue, 2007-01-16 at 22:55 +0200, Alon Bar-Lev wrote:
> On 1/16/07, Vlastimil Babka <caster@gentoo.org> wrote:
> > > I can help... Moving all packages I use to generation 2...
> >
> > Yeah, migrating packages that one has installed is common :) Maybe then
> > we find the rest isn't that important as not many people use it.
> > Help would be appreciated for sure. But please don't commit that on your
> > own without our review, at least for first attempts. Takes some
> > experience to do it properly (and admittedly, our docs aren't exactly up
> > to date with the eclasses improvements you can for example see in this ML).
>
> But you have to promiss me response time...
Promises from volunteers, that's asking quite a bit :)
> I will open a bug for each ebuild, and you review it in... a year? :)
Well you can always join the team and help out with the work load if you
are not happy with response time :) Also at times what is critical to
one is not to all. Such is life, but we are trying to improve things.
Just not to many active devs, and with 400+ packages. The load for any
one is quite great. With those like me only able to keep about 10 or so
of those current, and up to date. It leaves quite a load for others.
> > > My interest is to stop forcing sun-sdk-1.5 as generation 1...
> >
> > It's jdk-1.4 and it will have to be forced in generation 1. The interest
> > is to remove generation 1 :)
>
> NO... I force 1.5 to be generation 1... I don't like to have two sdks
> on my machine.
Yes I mentioned around the time that 1.6 was released we consider
bumping our min version to source/target 1.5. However that will only be
possible once ALL gen 1 packages are migrated, cleaned up, and so on. I
doubt it will happen in the next 5-6 months or so. Hopefully could and
should happen before end of year. IMHO
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Gentoo/Java
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* Re: [gentoo-java] Weka package cleanup
2007-01-16 20:55 ` Alon Bar-Lev
2007-01-16 22:53 ` Alistair Bush
2007-01-16 23:35 ` William L. Thomson Jr.
@ 2007-01-19 12:48 ` Petteri Räty
2007-01-19 19:12 ` [gentoo-java] dev-java/aspectwerkz Alistair Bush
2 siblings, 1 reply; 19+ messages in thread
From: Petteri Räty @ 2007-01-19 12:48 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-java
Alon Bar-Lev wrote:
> On 1/16/07, Vlastimil Babka <caster@gentoo.org> wrote:
>> > I can help... Moving all packages I use to generation 2...
>>
>> Yeah, migrating packages that one has installed is common :) Maybe then
>> we find the rest isn't that important as not many people use it.
>> Help would be appreciated for sure. But please don't commit that on your
>> own without our review, at least for first attempts. Takes some
>> experience to do it properly (and admittedly, our docs aren't exactly up
>> to date with the eclasses improvements you can for example see in this
>> ML).
>
> But you have to promiss me response time...
> I will open a bug for each ebuild, and you review it in... a year? :)
>
The best approach would probably be to give you commit access to the
java overlays. From there it would be immediately useful for our users
and could then be reviewed when java devs have the time. The easiest
approach to get something done in the Gentoo java land is to ping us in
#gentoo-java.
Regards,
Petteri
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