From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.54) id 1FJCMM-0004CY-Iz for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 16:26:59 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.5.20060308/8.13.5) with SMTP id k2EGQO4q029484; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 16:26:24 GMT Received: from nproxy.gmail.com (nproxy.gmail.com [64.233.182.206]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.5.20060308/8.13.5) with ESMTP id k2EGQN45030903 for ; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 16:26:24 GMT Received: by nproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id x37so1107747nfc for ; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 08:26:23 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=ISbS70n+SMshtJ2KOalOFdWgXdSBMUGjOqVQRnsYaf/yo+K3V1iDovOVgcgvppyilPsrYhLHLtw9bxbz6HHZRZ9SErEz7AuphQCmc9irWQekIsa4TPCvQUhDoQIK4TvEhm05fZXb0zucjFZQIJ8P30i23QXc77y6MYkVvQhe2Bc= Received: by 10.48.247.8 with SMTP id u8mr53633nfh; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 08:26:23 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.48.157.17 with HTTP; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 08:26:23 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <8f601a6d0603140826o6795d4a5l499a3c01eb2e764c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 09:26:23 -0700 From: "John Elm" To: "Karl Trygve Kalleberg" Subject: Re: [gentoo-java] Wanted: AppFuse webapplications Cc: "Gentoo Java" In-Reply-To: <43E7684A.3050600@gentoo.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-java@gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_3167_17801404.1142353583418" References: <43E7684A.3050600@gentoo.org> X-Archives-Salt: 91f0f43d-85d3-4687-bc58-f8a2b405093b X-Archives-Hash: 30b76f5d63893e0ca49073812d9288e4 ------=_Part_3167_17801404.1142353583418 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Hi Karl, While many people are enthusiastic about AppFuse, I think what Matt is actually saying on that page (the "Sliced Bread" statement) is that Springis the best thing since sliced bread. Prolly a tad confusing. What I've gathered is that AppFuse is meant to be a get-you-started application generator. I think the problem it aims to solve is to create a skeleton of an application for you, given your choices from a handful of open source options for various layers, i.e. O/R. I think it's especially useful for developers that want to use some of these frameworks but don't have experience with several of them. Say I have experience with all the things I want to use, except Hibernate. I'd go to the Hibernate site and learn the basics. But if I want an app that uses Hibernate, Spring, Acegi Security and DWR, learning each of them and piecing together a working starting implementation can take quite a bit of time and effort. I think it this particular problem that AppFuse is meant to help us with. On 2/6/06, Karl Trygve Kalleberg wrote: > > Hi gang, > > I'm at it again. I'd like to know if somebody somewhere has actually > used AppFuse to create a webapp. The slides and website seems to think > it's the best thing since sliced bread, but search as I might, I can't > find a single useful application built with it. > > (Now, I'm the first to admit that my searching skillz may have failed me.= ) > > > Cheers, > > -- Karl T > -- > gentoo-java@gentoo.org mailing list > > ------=_Part_3167_17801404.1142353583418 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Hi Karl,

While many people are enthusiastic about AppFuse, I think what Matt is actually saying on that page (the "Sliced Bread" statement) is th= at Spring is the best thing sinc= e sliced bread.  Prolly a tad confusing.

What I've gathered is that AppFuse is meant to be a get-you-started application generator.  I think the problem it aims to solve is to create a skeleton of an application for you, given your choices from a handful of open source options for various layers, i.e. O/R.  I think it's especially useful for developers that want to use some of these frameworks but don't have experience with several of them.

Say I have experience with all the things I want to use, except Hibernate.  I'd go to the Hibernate site and learn the basics.  But if I want an app that uses Hibernate, Spring, Acegi Security and DWR, learning each of them and piecing together a working starting implementation can take quite a bit of time and effort.  I think it this particular problem that AppFuse is meant to help us with.



On 2/6/06, Karl Trygve Kalleberg <k= arltk@gentoo.org > wrote:
Hi gang,

I'm at it again. I'd like to know if somebody somewhere has= actually
used AppFuse to create a webapp. The slides and website seems = to think
it's the best thing since sliced bread, but search as I might, = I can't
find a single useful application built with it.

(Now, I'm the fi= rst to admit that my searching skillz may have failed me.)


Cheer= s,

-- Karl T
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