From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([69.77.167.62] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KJAsh-0001zp-33 for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Wed, 16 Jul 2008 17:33:35 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B73BBE0394; Wed, 16 Jul 2008 17:33:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp-3.tky.hut.fi (smtp03.tky.fi [82.130.63.73]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 69476E0394 for ; Wed, 16 Jul 2008 17:33:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [82.130.46.209] ([82.130.46.209]) by smtp-3.tky.hut.fi (SMSSMTP 4.1.9.35) with SMTP id M2008071620332925866 for ; Wed, 16 Jul 2008 20:33:29 +0300 Message-ID: <487E30E9.4050509@gentoo.org> Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 20:33:29 +0300 From: =?UTF-8?B?UGV0dGVyaSBSw6R0eQ==?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080629) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-java@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gentoo Java Subject: Re: [gentoo-java] Re: Deprecating JDK 1.4 References: <4879D262.1080903@gentoo.org> <487DE651.5050609@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: <487DE651.5050609@gentoo.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 OpenPGP: url=http://users.tkk.fi/~praty/public.asc Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigCE9A387823153BB13A3A96CA" X-Archives-Salt: f9dc83ea-b714-4f54-83b1-65a88722b730 X-Archives-Hash: 297d521cf62e351d016b755b0486bf70 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigCE9A387823153BB13A3A96CA Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Krzysiek Pawlik kirjoitti: > J=C3=B6rg Schaible wrote: >> Please note, that Sun is still supporting JDK 1.3 for *paying*=20 >> customers. It >> will take years till Sun is completely dropping 1.4: >> >> http://www.sun.com/software/javaseforbusiness/support.jsp >=20 > Yes, but the free Java world goes forward, plethora of projects use=20 > generics - > and they require >=3D 1.5 (or any other feature of JDK 1.5). >=20 >> Therefore I still have even 1.3 ebuilds on my local tree. And I had to= >> download and use the official ant binaries to run it with 1.3.=20 >> Dropping 1.4 >> means also that it is no longer possible to run Maven with its minimum= =20 >> JDK >> requirement. >=20 > Yes, but VM which is running maven is not the same as VM for which the = > code is > generated (note -source and -target options of javac). >=20 >> In Gentoo all is about choice, but this seem not to apply for Java >> development. For me it gets unusable. >=20 > You're missing the point: the official tree (gentoo-x86) will require=20 > >=3D1.5, > *but*: if you install JDK 1.4 (or any other version) you can still use = > it for > your own software (including maven, ant and so on). >=20 > Also like I said - more and more things require 1.5, which means that=20 > all things > depending on them also need to be >=3D 1.5. For example: new hessian=20 > requires >=3D > 1.5, which means that mx4j needs also to be switched to 1.5, which mean= s=20 > we have > to switch anything depending on mx4j, and so on. >=20 I don't think we will be removing 1.4 JDKs from the main tree before Sun = EOLs them. Even after that I think we will be keeping them around in the = Java overlay. The point here is that we will end our support for using=20 1.4 as the system VM and build VM when Sun EOLs it. Regards, Petteri --------------enigCE9A387823153BB13A3A96CA Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkh+MOwACgkQcxLzpIGCsLSLZQCbBGpl+7UEoUvQ/iJJOxI3+g/v 2pIAn35UytGOe7KtmNwAtHA1i6CnLGW3 =T/F8 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigCE9A387823153BB13A3A96CA-- -- gentoo-java@lists.gentoo.org mailing list