From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([69.77.167.62] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KJ5uf-0007T0-3a for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Wed, 16 Jul 2008 12:15:17 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D3E86E03B1; Wed, 16 Jul 2008 12:15:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail01.home.net.pl (mail01.home.net.pl [62.129.252.11]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 674FAE03B1 for ; Wed, 16 Jul 2008 12:15:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (HELO ?10.0.0.97?) (krzysiek.pawlik.people@home@127.0.0.1) by mail01.home.net.pl with SMTP; Wed, 16 Jul 2008 12:15:12 -0000 Message-ID: <487DE651.5050609@gentoo.org> Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 14:15:13 +0200 From: Krzysiek Pawlik Organization: Gentoo User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080618) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-java@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gentoo Java Subject: Re: [gentoo-java] Re: Deprecating JDK 1.4 References: <4879D262.1080903@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig3BEE15B8A799C6AF678D2EE4" X-Archives-Salt: e7fbbe18-86ea-4038-ba4b-aa85824494f7 X-Archives-Hash: 2c237474105bb8d73b353e8bee3620da This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig3BEE15B8A799C6AF678D2EE4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable J=C3=B6rg Schaible wrote: > Please note, that Sun is still supporting JDK 1.3 for *paying* customer= s. It > will take years till Sun is completely dropping 1.4: >=20 > http://www.sun.com/software/javaseforbusiness/support.jsp Yes, but the free Java world goes forward, plethora of projects use gener= ics - and they require >=3D 1.5 (or any other feature of JDK 1.5). > Therefore I still have even 1.3 ebuilds on my local tree. And I had to > download and use the official ant binaries to run it with 1.3. Dropping= 1.4 > means also that it is no longer possible to run Maven with its minimum = JDK > requirement. Yes, but VM which is running maven is not the same as VM for which the co= de is generated (note -source and -target options of javac). > In Gentoo all is about choice, but this seem not to apply for Java > development. For me it gets unusable. You're missing the point: the official tree (gentoo-x86) will require >=3D= 1.5, *but*: if you install JDK 1.4 (or any other version) you can still use it= for your own software (including maven, ant and so on). Also like I said - more and more things require 1.5, which means that all= things depending on them also need to be >=3D 1.5. For example: new hessian requ= ires >=3D 1.5, which means that mx4j needs also to be switched to 1.5, which means = we have to switch anything depending on mx4j, and so on. --=20 Krzysiek Pawlik key id: 0xBC555551 desktop-misc, java, apache, ppc, vim, kernel, python... --------------enig3BEE15B8A799C6AF678D2EE4 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkh95lEACgkQgo/w9rxVVVEA5QCeJtJSLF9zfFoGoZUaC+oBC2PB 38kAoLTZgIefNzyj9VMl55JV8fPEv/B2 =TDHL -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig3BEE15B8A799C6AF678D2EE4-- -- gentoo-java@lists.gentoo.org mailing list