From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1G7tf6-0005We-DV for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Tue, 01 Aug 2006 12:47:52 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.7/8.13.6) with SMTP id k71CklUV019166; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 12:46:47 GMT Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.7/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k71CkkHS018138 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 12:46:46 GMT Received: from mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.22]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 01 Aug 2006 08:46:50 -0400 Received: from smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.11]) by mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 3.7.5a-GA) with ESMTP id LZA11500; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 08:46:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 146-115-26-214.c3-0.abr-ubr1.sbo-abr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO [192.168.1.7]) ([146.115.26.214]) by smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 01 Aug 2006 08:46:41 -0400 X-IronPort-AV: i="4.07,201,1151899200"; d="scan'208"; a="247489689:sNHT7350403472" Message-ID: <44CF4D3F.5090707@gentoo.org> Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 08:46:55 -0400 From: Joshua Nichols User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (X11/20060730) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-java@gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-java@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-java] Java installation handling not acceptable References: <200607312116.45373.damage@rooties.de> <44CE5B9E.60006@gentoo.org> <200608011035.13509.damage@rooties.de> <254054bc0608010231y7d4b0d17h2d846fe18395303b@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <254054bc0608010231y7d4b0d17h2d846fe18395303b@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Junkmail-Status: score=10/50, host=mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net X-Junkmail-SD-Raw: score=unknown, refid=str=0001.0A090205.44CF4CCB.0053,ss=1,fgs=0, ip=207.172.4.11, so=2006-05-09 23:27:51, dmn=5.2.4/2006-05-04 X-Archives-Salt: f4e21093-27f4-4578-9f0e-15eaa8f1db60 X-Archives-Hash: 08a5c86eb07da58e6159e129b3332217 Wiktor Wandachowicz wrote: > > The transition period will end eventually. But you're right that the > > new-style Java installation requires manual intervention Right Now (TM). > > This is expected with many other packages that are in testing as well. > > Problem is, Java is a requirement for many people and the (minor, IMHO) > > hurdles just makes them unnecessarily angry. If one has to use testing > > versions of packages, one also has to learn how to deal with them > > correctly: > > http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=3&chap=3 > > > If you're upgrading an existing install or using stable keywords on a new install, yes, there's some manual intervention required... But for the record, if you're using testing keywords on a new install... it Just Works (TM). I just did a fresh install over the weekend and was pleased to see how well it went :-D > > For the time being, one could write a script that could install testing > > (~arch) Java on a stable profile - adding proper atoms to package.unmask > > and package.keywords, checking the sanity, etc. But this work would > > be outdated too some time in the future. It's just a matter of time when > > these Java packages (and there are about 400 of them in portage!) will > > become stabilized. The more time developers spend on this goal the > > faster it becomes reality. And they don't get paid for it, remember. > > > I was actually working on a script based on nelchael's find-unported.py script, that would find all the packages using that have been migrated, so it'd basically give you a list of things to put in /etc/portage/package.keywords. Also just had a revelation... could use that in combination with find-unported.py to package.mask everything that was unported. This would have the benefit of making it pretty obvious what stuff in a dependency tree still needs to be migrated. -- gentoo-java@gentoo.org mailing list