From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1G7teQ-0001nX-Ax for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Tue, 01 Aug 2006 12:47:10 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.7/8.13.6) with SMTP id k71CjtI8011178; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 12:45:55 GMT Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.7/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k71CjsDT016471 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 12:45:55 GMT Received: from mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.22]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 01 Aug 2006 08:45:59 -0400 Received: from smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.11]) by mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 3.7.5a-GA) with ESMTP id LZA11129; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 08:45:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 146-115-26-214.c3-0.abr-ubr1.sbo-abr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO [192.168.1.7]) ([146.115.26.214]) by smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 01 Aug 2006 08:45:52 -0400 X-IronPort-AV: i="4.07,201,1151899200"; d="scan'208"; a="247489165:sNHT23101868" Message-ID: <44CF4D0E.3060602@gentoo.org> Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 08:46:06 -0400 From: Joshua Nichols User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (X11/20060730) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-java@gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-java@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-java] Java installation handling not acceptable References: <200607312116.45373.damage@rooties.de> <44CE5B9E.60006@gentoo.org> <200608011035.13509.damage@rooties.de> In-Reply-To: <200608011035.13509.damage@rooties.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-6 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Junkmail-Status: score=10/50, host=mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net X-Junkmail-SD-Raw: score=unknown, refid=str=0001.0A090208.44CF4C97.004F,ss=1,fgs=0, ip=207.172.4.11, so=2006-05-09 23:27:51, dmn=5.2.4/2006-05-04 X-Archives-Salt: a2f10d44-4d94-4d23-8b78-ae2bc3ae75b9 X-Archives-Hash: 8792b97e8aef416d08bced4f0404e374 Daniel wrote: > Hi, > thank you all for responding. > > I notice that it is ugly to explain this problem. So I will ask a simple > question and we will have a look at the answer(s). > > How do I emerge JDK-1.5 if I also need to set the "java" useflag? > > I'm not sure what you're getting at with this question... You can just emerge =jdk-1.5*... You'd have to set the java USE flag yourself in make.conf as you normally would. However, not all packages with USE=java have been migrated to the new Java system, so those would need to use a 1.4 JDK. > I'm really interested in your answers. But I think all possible answers are > longer than two sentences, aren't they? And THAT is the problem. > > Well, it is a complicated issue. If we hadn't done anything, Java 1.5 would still be package.mask'd. If we had done the migration by dropping it directly stable, there'd be even more problems than there are, since stable users would be having issues too. The way it was done, with the generations, was a compromise. It is certainly less than ideal, but it was the sanest way we could come up with to support it. > Krzysiek Pawlik told me that one of my suggestions "would break > the 'non-interactive' principle of portage". But the Java installation _is > currently_ 'interactive'. > It's 'interactive' because it stops when a problem is detected... a good thing, yes? > regards > Daniel > -- gentoo-java@gentoo.org mailing list