Re: [gentoo-java] Java installation handling not acceptable

[Alistair Bush <alistair.bush@gmail.com>]

Daniel wrote:
> Hi,
> the installation of Java on Gentoo is the hell on earth!
>
> - the installation is non transparent
> - the java-"help"-utils (java-config, java-config-wrapper) are not acceptable,
> because you don't really need them
> - the whole solution of installing more than one jdk is bumptious - so not 
> easy
> handable
>
> This meens that it takes long time to install java and that you need to do 
> some
> terrible thinks (e.g. unmasking some packages ... see
> http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/java/java-upgrade.xml).
>
> This is not the way gentoo should go because this is to heavy for the user
> (that mostly just wants to install a jdk :) )!
>
> So I have collected some points _we_ should think about:
> - why is jdk-1.5 still under development?
>   
Because not all packages (worthy of being in the tree)  compile with 
Java 1.5.
> - is it really necessary to install an jdk-1.4 and jdk-1.5? - if yes, why you
> don't need to install jdk-1.3?
>   
there are no packages that require jdk-1.3 to compile.  
> - gentoo should never make a difference between jdk 1.4 and 1.5
>   
Why?  I certainly make a difference between a amd x86 cpu and a intel 
x86 cpu.
> - java-config should just generate some environment files to set a special vm
> - if an ebuild requires a special vm (why ever, because the api of the jdk is
> compatible in most points) it should gnerate a warning, that the vm should be
> set to 1.x
> - it is the problem of the user if there are two java applications which need
> different vms (this problem is much easier to solve than installing java ;)).
>
>   

> I hope you will not understand this bug as an act of aggression - it should
> just help Gentoo.
>
> regards
> Daniel aka Damage
>   
Doesn't the java's project pages explain all this?
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