From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1G6g9l-0005ga-FB for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sat, 29 Jul 2006 04:10:29 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.7/8.13.6) with SMTP id k6T49nZp023037; Sat, 29 Jul 2006 04:09:49 GMT Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.7/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k6T49n9V028152 for ; Sat, 29 Jul 2006 04:09:49 GMT Received: from mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.22]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 29 Jul 2006 00:09:53 -0400 Received: from smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.11]) by mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 3.7.5a-GA) with ESMTP id LYN98632; Sat, 29 Jul 2006 00:09:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 146-115-26-214.c3-0.abr-ubr1.sbo-abr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO [192.168.1.6]) ([146.115.26.214]) by smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 29 Jul 2006 00:09:23 -0400 X-IronPort-AV: i="4.07,194,1151899200"; d="scan'208"; a="245759913:sNHT27418240" Message-ID: <44CADF3C.109@gentoo.org> Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2006 00:08:28 -0400 From: Joshua Nichols User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.4 (X11/20060702) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-java@gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ted Kosan CC: gentoo-java@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-java] Re: Gentoo/Java staffing needs References: <20060728081326.9351.qmail@web31810.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20060728081326.9351.qmail@web31810.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Junkmail-Status: score=10/50, host=mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net X-Junkmail-SD-Raw: score=unknown, refid=str=0001.0A090201.44CADF3E.0021,ss=1,fgs=0, ip=207.172.4.11, so=2006-05-09 23:27:51, dmn=5.2.4/2006-05-04 X-Archives-Salt: 60bfbde6-7e02-4938-925b-d0c9d8c51bfa X-Archives-Hash: 336745f1dc5ae19b493677b2543095bf Ted Kosan wrote: > Joshua wrote: > > Two of the difficulties that seem to be contributing to the Java team's > understaffing problem are: > > 1) A significant number of Java developers do not know very much about Linux > and of those who do, not many of them are familiar with Gentoo. > > 2) Of those Java developers who are aware of Gentoo and its solid support for > Java, many of them do not have enough Linux skills to successfully install it. > > > I totally agree. Usually, you don't get the right combination of Java and Linux skills in folks that are interested in helping out. > After thinking about the understaffing problem for a few months, I have come up > with an idea that may help solve these difficulties. > > I am one of the community leaders on Sun's java.net site ( http://java.net ) > and I have put together a "Java Distribution" LiveCD ( called JDOS, > https://jdos.dev.java.net ) which is based on Gentoo. JDOS is ready for its > initial release and the last thing I am waiting on is for Sun's new > Linux-friendly JDK files to be added to the portage tree. > > One advantage that the java.net site has is that thousands of Java developers > visit it each day to read blogs, articles and other news items. > > As soon as it is released, my plan is to write some articles and blog entries > on JDOS ( and its Gentoo foundation ) for publication on java.net's front page. > My hope is that a number of Java developers will find the CD to be useful and > then be interested in having their own Java software, or the latest version of > their favorite Java applications, included on the LiveCD. > > This is very cool! I wish I had heard about it earlier. One of the cool things we had wanted to do, but never quite got to was a live cd showing off our Java packages. In particular, it'd be nice to have a 'developer' cd, loaded with netbeans, eclipse, tomcat, etc, etc. I'll try to give it a whirl sometime this weekend. > Since this will require that the software be placed in the portage tree, I am > hoping that some of these developers can be convinced to join the Gentoo Java > team and learn how to create and maintain packages. > That would certainly be great. If there are needs you have in terms of packages, or whatever, don't be afraid to drop a note to this list, or file an appropriate bug. >> * Java generalists >> >> We have tons of Java packages. It was around 400 or so last time I >> checked. As one can imagine, this kind of number >> generates a pretty constant stream of bugs and version bump requests. >> >> So, basically I'm looking for some people to help out with >> general maintence of our packages. >> > > I will volunteer to be part of this group. I would have done this a number of > months ago but I had my hands full learning python so that I could figure out > how to use Catalyst properly :-) > Very cool. I look forward to it :-D -- Joshua Nichols Gentoo/Java - Project Lead -- gentoo-java@gentoo.org mailing list