From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.54) id 1Fcj3a-0004GQ-5J for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sun, 07 May 2006 13:12:18 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.6/8.13.6) with SMTP id k47DBlqZ025592; Sun, 7 May 2006 13:11:47 GMT Received: from smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.11]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k47DBkj4027251 for ; Sun, 7 May 2006 13:11:46 GMT Received: from 146-115-26-214.c3-0.abr-ubr1.sbo-abr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO [192.168.1.104]) ([146.115.26.214]) by smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 07 May 2006 09:12:27 -0400 X-IronPort-AV: i="4.05,98,1146456000"; d="scan'208"; a="199384689:sNHT23900388" Message-ID: <445DF21C.4090501@gentoo.org> Date: Sun, 07 May 2006 08:11:56 -0500 From: Joshua Nichols User-Agent: Mail/News 1.5 (X11/20060326) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-java@gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: robert burrell donkin CC: gentoo-java Subject: Re: [gentoo-java] Java ideas for Summer of Code References: <445A37CE.1000305@gentoo.org> <445B6D6A.10203@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 22c823cc-c307-40dc-9988-cc34be6a3afb X-Archives-Hash: e361cf0bd3e5e121f672c57b785ae01d -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 robert burrell donkin wrote: > On 5/5/06, Joshua Nichols wrote: >> >> robert burrell donkin wrote: >> > On 5/4/06, *Joshua Nichols* > > > >> why the emphasis on software libre? >> > >> And I think you're reading too much into what I said. By libre, I really >> mean open source. > > > good :-) > >> why exclude ASL'd libraries from the effort? >> ASL? Do you mean the Apache license? > > > yep > > In either case, I don't recall >> saying anything about excluding anything. > > > ASL2 is still incompatible with GPL2 > > free java means rebuilding the complete stack including replacements for > all > ASL'd applications and libraries. so there's a little bit of politics in > the > mix. > So you're saying that 'free java' refers to java licened under the GPL? If that's what you're stuck up on, I guess I should be saying open source java (which I could have sworn I've been saying from the start) >> why not open source java? >> > >> Uh, open source java is EXACTLY what I'm talking about :) > > > good :-) > > gump (http://gump.apache.org/) builds and tests 700 projects from source > each day. IIRC the classpath team run gump. might be able to dig out an url > if you're interested in seeing the current level of progress. > > in general, finding a way to generate EBUILDs from gump descriptors would > make available a lot of libraries and applications without extensive > effort. > a maven EBUILD plugin would be even better. ebuild isn't an acronym, so you don't need to capitalize it all ;) But having a way to generate ebuilds from gump descriptor or maven project files would be intersting and all well and good... but someone would actually have to do the work to put it together. That person isn't likely me in the foreseeable future, unless someone has a deal on cloning. > > apache has a lot of API implementations but they are scattered amongst > different projects. it would probably be generally a good thing if they > were > more easily accessible. fixing that would also be a big gain for a small > amount of effort. 'small amount of effort' for whom? Adding a lot of packages doesn't particularly sound like a small effort to me. Another hurdle is that many projects are switching to maven for building, and as I describe in the project ideas, we aren't quiet ready to handle using it to build. - - Josh -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFEXfIc8ATTzZyw6sMRAkuSAJ9bpAOu1y+FA2cnWtgLhxn86JcbLQCfWO2m sFtBxnvg/1o1/BahT839u7w= =7YRB -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- gentoo-java@gentoo.org mailing list