From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.54) id 1Fbo8G-0002Mb-F0 for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Fri, 05 May 2006 00:25:20 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.6/8.13.6) with SMTP id k450Ovd8009176; Fri, 5 May 2006 00:24:57 GMT Received: from mta9.adelphia.net (mta9.adelphia.net [68.168.78.199]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k450OuJN004131 for ; Fri, 5 May 2006 00:24:56 GMT Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [24.54.90.52]) by mta9.adelphia.net (InterMail vM.6.01.05.02 201-2131-123-102-20050715) with ESMTP id <20060505002454.GTDV8718.mta9.adelphia.net@[127.0.0.1]>; Thu, 4 May 2006 20:24:54 -0400 Message-ID: <445A9F32.5070406@johnmanko.com> Date: Thu, 04 May 2006 20:41:22 -0400 From: John Manko User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Windows/20050923) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-java@gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Karl Trygve Kalleberg CC: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jer=F4nimo_Backes?= , Gentoo Java Subject: Re: [gentoo-java] Why Netbeans 5.0 isn't available trough portage yet? References: <445945B4.9040304@yahoo.com.br> <4459DC39.5060003@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: <4459DC39.5060003@gentoo.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by robin.gentoo.org id k450OvdY009176 X-Archives-Salt: 837933cb-9d46-49c4-8bba-d49d1d51229e X-Archives-Hash: 944dea01b5bceb263fb98ba3dadae148 Have those libraries been contributed to the harmony project. Perhaps=20 the ones of most interest should be addressed first. I'm sure where the=20 project stands, though. You would know more about that. http://incubator.apache.org/harmony/ Karl Trygve Kalleberg wrote: >Jer=F4nimo Backes wrote: > =20 > >>Can someone answer that, please? >> >>Netbeans 5 was released 3 or 4 months ago, and yet it is still not >>available to install trough portage (the same for Netbeans 4.5, that >>never appeared into portage, even 1 year after its release) >> >>Is there some reason for this? >> =20 >> > >Funny you should mention this. We've been in contact with Roman Strobl >from Sun lately, who's been very anxious about us making NetBeans 5.0 >available in Portage. > >What Greg says about the freeze and our state of being understaffed is >of course correct, and are the main reasons. > >There is another, however, that makes us downprioritize NetBeans: it has >a lot of painful dependencies. If you look at the dependency graph of >NetBeans 4.1, you will see that it depends on JMX, JAF, JavaMail, JIMI >and a few other packages that we cannot package properly, because we >don't have a redistribution license. > >This means that in order to install NetBeans, a user needs to manually >download about six different packages from the Sun website *and* >register hirself (JMX requires registration). This is very painful. > >What's more painful is that the upstream availability of these packages >changes; now and again, the files are replaced and old versions are no >longer downloadable. Even worse, the binary content of the file may >change, but the filename stays the same. This kills our md5sum verificat= ion. > >For these reasons, we simply cannot afford to spend the time maintaining >the package properly -- maintenance of the dependencies is the killer -- >and that's also why NetBeans 4.0 and 4.1 are only in ~arch. > >Now the good news: Sun has recently relicensed everything we need to >package this properly, except JavaHelp and JMX. I have on good authority >that they're trying to liberate JavaHelp, and possibly also JMX. If so, >NetBeans 5.0 will be nicely packaged and moved into stable as soon as >our 1.5 migration is over. > > >Also: If you have a particular interest in helping out with NetBeans >5.0, please say so, and you can start testing/hacking on our current 5.0 >ebuild that's in our experimental overlay. > >-- Karl T > =20 > --=20 gentoo-java@gentoo.org mailing list