From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.54) id 1FabWr-0007yZ-2D for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Mon, 01 May 2006 16:45:45 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.6/8.13.6) with SMTP id k41GjS8G015737; Mon, 1 May 2006 16:45:28 GMT Received: from gw02.mail.saunalahti.fi (gw02.mail.saunalahti.fi [195.197.172.116]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k41GjSY2003990 for ; Mon, 1 May 2006 16:45:28 GMT Received: from [192.168.150.87] (a88-112-194-247.elisa-laajakaista.fi [88.112.194.247]) by gw02.mail.saunalahti.fi (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DFF3EFFCE for ; Mon, 1 May 2006 19:45:27 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <44563B24.8000608@gentoo.org> Date: Mon, 01 May 2006 19:45:24 +0300 From: =?UTF-8?B?UGV0dGVyaSBSw6R0eQ==?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.2 (X11/20060430) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-java@gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-java@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-java] binary virtual machines and use flags / dependencies (X, alsa, odbc) References: <4435C89C.8030900@gentoo.org> <1144439813.9557.2.camel@wlt.obsidian-studios.com> <443BD2A9.6060706@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: <443BD2A9.6060706@gentoo.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 OpenPGP: url=http://users.tkk.fi/~praty/public.asc Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig83B4F25E140A3FD8E493640F" X-Archives-Salt: e03b510a-587e-46ca-bc5e-d6de65df2e75 X-Archives-Hash: 78518a0d1e476057ccf8d84d49d61b51 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig83B4F25E140A3FD8E493640F Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Joshua Nichols wrote: > William L. Thomson Jr. wrote: >> On Thu, 2006-04-06 at 21:04 -0500, Joshua Nichols wrote: >> =20 >>> I don't think either of these are particular ideal. I think it would >>> slightly better to depend on the things that the libraries needed. >>> =20 >> Well I am not sure that would work or be ideal. A few reasons. One if >> someone was on a server and so not using alsa, extra stuff is pulled i= n. >> Now one could say big deal. >> >> However two, if we installed all deps by default that would also inclu= de >> X. Which is a very large app, many deps, takes forever to compile even= >> on fast hardware. >> >> Now some time back when I was using JGenerator (a servlet) via Tomcat = it >> had deps on X. I can't recall what happened, I do not believe it was >> anything catatstrophic. At the same time it was not the greatest eithe= r, >> logs were created and JGenerator would not work till I installed X. >> >> Granted both these scenarios are more server related than desktop. >> However it's cases where the extra stuff would not be wanted across th= e >> board. Much less have to package.provide stuff etc? >> >> Unfortunately I think use flag is best, and yes it creates broken >> symbols and etc for missing stuff. Not sure what to say, but it's murk= y >> waters, and I am not sure there is any elegant, or ideal way to go abo= ut >> it? Will keep the thinking cap on about it though. >> >> =20 > For now, I think I agree that the use flag just for dependencies is the= > best route to take. We currently do this to an extent, but just need t= o > make sure it is applied to all the appropriate VMs >=20 IMHO the best course of action is to use use flags and delete the shared libraries if the use flag is turned off. I just never go to finishing the work I started. Many people use java on server machines and as such don't want anything X installed. Regards, Petteri --------------enig83B4F25E140A3FD8E493640F Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFEVjsmcxLzpIGCsLQRAj6oAJ9uCeom2Dw94N9evemrZDIPVLWI0gCfWSj8 dYKVyATNXjCFJdpSPKyAzHE= =0uW8 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig83B4F25E140A3FD8E493640F-- -- gentoo-java@gentoo.org mailing list