From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.54) id 1FTLIc-0007TT-B2 for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Tue, 11 Apr 2006 16:01:02 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.6/8.13.5) with SMTP id k3BG0jU6022829; Tue, 11 Apr 2006 16:00:45 GMT Received: from banta-im.com (roy-rogers.nfic.com [208.231.230.100]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.6/8.13.5) with ESMTP id k3BG0i1O022981 for ; Tue, 11 Apr 2006 16:00:44 GMT Received: from by banta-im.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA23591; Tue, 11 Apr 2006 12:00:42 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <443BD2A9.6060706@gentoo.org> Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 12:00:41 -0400 From: Joshua Nichols User-Agent: Mail/News 1.5 (X11/20060411) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-java@gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "William L. Thomson Jr." CC: gentoo-java Subject: Re: [gentoo-java] binary virtual machines and use flags / dependencies (X, alsa, odbc) References: <4435C89C.8030900@gentoo.org> <1144439813.9557.2.camel@wlt.obsidian-studios.com> In-Reply-To: <1144439813.9557.2.camel@wlt.obsidian-studios.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 967aeb81-f294-466f-8175-bb6dfab4037c X-Archives-Hash: 306464d13a63f07ddbccb5be14b2c7ae William L. Thomson Jr. wrote: > On Thu, 2006-04-06 at 21:04 -0500, Joshua Nichols wrote: > >> I don't think either of these are particular ideal. I think it would >> slightly better to depend on the things that the libraries needed. >> > > Well I am not sure that would work or be ideal. A few reasons. One if > someone was on a server and so not using alsa, extra stuff is pulled in. > Now one could say big deal. > > However two, if we installed all deps by default that would also include > X. Which is a very large app, many deps, takes forever to compile even > on fast hardware. > > Now some time back when I was using JGenerator (a servlet) via Tomcat it > had deps on X. I can't recall what happened, I do not believe it was > anything catatstrophic. At the same time it was not the greatest either, > logs were created and JGenerator would not work till I installed X. > > Granted both these scenarios are more server related than desktop. > However it's cases where the extra stuff would not be wanted across the > board. Much less have to package.provide stuff etc? > > Unfortunately I think use flag is best, and yes it creates broken > symbols and etc for missing stuff. Not sure what to say, but it's murky > waters, and I am not sure there is any elegant, or ideal way to go about > it? Will keep the thinking cap on about it though. > > For now, I think I agree that the use flag just for dependencies is the best route to take. We currently do this to an extent, but just need to make sure it is applied to all the appropriate VMs - Josh -- gentoo-java@gentoo.org mailing list