From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.54) id 1F8j1R-0003Ti-MI for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Mon, 13 Feb 2006 19:06:06 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.5/8.13.5) with SMTP id k1DJ5YAU013736; Mon, 13 Feb 2006 19:05:34 GMT Received: from banta-im.com (roy-rogers.nfic.com [208.231.230.100]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id k1DJ5Xam022140 for ; Mon, 13 Feb 2006 19:05:33 GMT Received: from by banta-im.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA20754 for ; Mon, 13 Feb 2006 14:05:32 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <43F0D880.7000500@gentoo.org> Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 14:05:36 -0500 From: Joshua Nichols User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (X11/20051201) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-java@gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-java@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-java] Gentoo Java / Apache Tomcat choices vs FreeBSD References: <43F04554.7000008@roq.com> <43F0504B.4000203@severinsson.net> In-Reply-To: <43F0504B.4000203@severinsson.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 564fcd7e-f4d5-433d-8147-69c8b6c9916f X-Archives-Hash: 383d69ee6188e4577a8db07bf7e61a6f Jon Severinsson wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > I have no idea why there is no (package-masked) Apache 2.2 in portage, I > would have liked that to, but I would like to defend the gentoo-java > team, who I think are doing a wonderful job. Currently they are very > busy trying to do the java-config migration required for Java 1.5 (and > Java 1.6), which is an impressive undertaking considering their lack of > manpower. (see https://projects.gentooexperimental.org/expj/wiki) > > Indeed. We are quite busy with preparing for the migration, and will be busy with the actual migration once it begins. In the meantime, we are in the midst of a package freeze. As for Apache-2.2 (and in general) ... it is usually worth checking bugzilla for bugs about version bumps. In this case, a quick search yields: http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=114232 > After that I assume they will refocus on rev bumps such as Tomcat 5.5. > For the impatient you can take a look at the experimental overlay, where > Tomcat 5.5 already is present. > (see http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/java/experimental.xml) > > The maintainer of tomcat went MIA several months ago. Recently, one of our users has been giving tomcat-5.5 some lovin in the experimental overlay. He also began work on updating mod_jk to go with it, but I'm not sure what the status is on that. > As for jdk's, currently only 5 is fully supported (blackdown-jdk-1.3, > blackdown-jdk-1.4, ibm-jdk-bin-1.4, sun-jdk-1.3, and sun-jdk-1.4), but > in addition there is 8 more available if you have special > needs/interests (compaq-jdk-1.3, ibm-jdk-bin-1.5, jrockit-jdk-bin-1.5, > sun-jdk-1.2, sun-jdk-1.5, sun-jdk-1.6, kaffe-1.1, sablevm-1.11), and we > are still not counting jre's (all above, blackdown-jre-1.3, > blackdown-jre-1.4, sun-jre-bin-1.4, sun-jre-bin-1.5, compaq-jre-1.3, > ibm-jre-bin-1.4, sablevm-1.1, jamvm-1.3, jamvm-1.4, ikvm-0.14, > ikvm-0.20, ikvm-bin-0.14), in total 25 options, counting only the one's > I know about (there's probably more, whose name doesn't include jre, jdk > or vm, and I thus missed). I wouldn't say there is a lack of choices, > though I would like kaffe and sablevm better supported. > > One day, I'd like to be able to build our entire Java stack with a free VM. Unfortunately, a good number of packages use com.sun.* classes directly, which wouldn't be available from non-sun VMs. > Michael Vince skrev: > >> Hi all, >> I just installed Gentoo on my laptop after having FreeBSD as my desktop >> for a long time. >> I felt Gentoo would be my best shot at using and enjoying a Linux >> distribution for my desktop, as Gentoo promises a lot of freedom and >> choice. >> All up its pretty darn good but I have to say I am a bit disappointed >> with the Tomcat/Apache/Java choices Gentoo portage has to offer. >> >> The main reason I am interested in Gentoo Linux was the fact I can use a >> Java supplied from Sun as an alternative to some of the FreeBSD native >> Java compiled via ports with Tomcat. I have servers running under >> Apache2.0.55 and Apache2.2.0 with Tomcat 5.5.x >> >> My main problems are there is not a full set of choices of Apache that >> being just 1.3.x or Apache 2.0.x and no Apache 2.2.x. >> Apache 2.2.x has some great new features like a built in AJP module for >> linking Tomcat and Apache together with out needing the external mod_ajp >> module. >> Secondly there is only Tomcat 5.0.x in portage, in FreeBSD there is >> Tomcat3,Tomcat4,Tomcat41, Tomcat5 and Tomcat55 >> I do have to admit I think I will be happy with even just 1 Java in >> Linux since I know it comes from Sun for Linux which I expecting should >> be of a good quality. Believe it or not but doing a 'cd >> /usr/ports/java/; ls | grep -c jdk" in FreeBSD returns a count of 15 >> Java choices, admittedly half of then being the Linux ones for use via >> the Linux kernel emulation. >> >> We should have all the major JDKs and JREs. If we are missing some, please feel free to file requests on our bugzilla. >> I installed Gentoo on my laptop with a bit of excitement and was going >> to start doing some benchmarks and testing with Apache 2.2 and Tomcat >> 5.5 just to find I will have to start manually building it all and >> manually installing it all my self. >> >> My question is does any one have any idea of when Apache projects such >> as Tomcat 5.5 and Apache 2.2 will be in portage? >> - Josh -- gentoo-java@gentoo.org mailing list