From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.54) id 1Ek9Hi-00088J-EA for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Thu, 08 Dec 2005 00:05:18 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.5/8.13.5) with SMTP id jB804ZUl023429; Thu, 8 Dec 2005 00:04:35 GMT Received: from mta1.adelphia.net (mta1.adelphia.net [68.168.78.175]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id jB804WWN009964 for ; Thu, 8 Dec 2005 00:04:34 GMT Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [24.54.90.52]) by mta13.adelphia.net (InterMail vM.6.01.05.02 201-2131-123-102-20050715) with ESMTP id <20051207235343.KFES28251.mta13.adelphia.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Wed, 7 Dec 2005 18:53:46 -0500 Message-ID: <4397796C.9060604@johnmanko.com> Date: Wed, 07 Dec 2005 19:08:12 -0500 From: John Manko User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Windows/20050923) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-java@gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: gentoo-java@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: Java 1.5 - the Real Story [was: Re: [gentoo-java] Question about Sun-Jdk 1.4.2.10] References: <438CEAF1.1090402@pbw.id.au> <1133313131.2968.25.camel@metaverse> <438E2A19.70503@pbw.id.au> <1133392180.8693.14.camel@localhost> <439155E4.10100@pbw.id.au> <43974C93.3070001@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: <43974C93.3070001@gentoo.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: c42bdd7b-293a-4dd8-a3b2-d466e222a57c X-Archives-Hash: e2823b95345c90b0c6038623122eb560 > > The genuine options for J5 users are to scrap the Gentoo Java > support and > > maintain your own Java environment, or to abandon Gentoo. > > (5) Help us solve the remaining technical issues > >> I see that there is yet another enquiry on the list about using J5. >> Do that user a favour and tell him why he can't get a supported J5 >> environment on Gentoo, so that he can then make informed decisions. >> If you guys are embarrassed by the Gentoo ideology, change it or >> leave. If not, present it honestly, instead of spouting this >> deliberately misleading BS about system stability issues. It's >> leaving users with the impression that J5 is unstable, which it >> patently is not. > > Instead of spending your and my time on writing mails on this topic, > please help us solve the technical issues. The Gentoo community, as > any other open-source community, is dependent on help, input and > constructive criticism from our users. > I'd love to help. -- gentoo-java@gentoo.org mailing list