From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1E6RjD-0006X5-KJ for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sat, 20 Aug 2005 11:41:36 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with SMTP id j7KBesaQ016878; Sat, 20 Aug 2005 11:40:54 GMT Received: from gw01.mail.saunalahti.fi (gw01.mail.saunalahti.fi [195.197.172.115]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j7KBereY009308 for ; Sat, 20 Aug 2005 11:40:53 GMT Received: from [192.168.150.87] (YYYMMMXLIX.dsl.saunalahti.fi [85.76.9.250]) by gw01.mail.saunalahti.fi (Postfix) with ESMTP id 900E4F01DB; Sat, 20 Aug 2005 14:41:10 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <430716D6.2010404@gentoo.org> Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2005 14:41:10 +0300 From: =?UTF-8?B?UGV0dGVyaSBSw6R0eQ==?= User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (X11/20050805) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-java@gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Peter B. West" CC: gentoo-java@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-java] Re: the new java setup and jni References: <4304B10B.4000603@gentoo.org> <4304E74E.4090002@gentoo.org> <4304EB50.1050605@gentoo.org> <4304FC85.3070901@gentoo.org> <430577DE.7090606@gentoo.org> <43058192.7020808@pbw.id.au> <43061041.6020007@gentoo.org> <43065524.9060603@pbw.id.au> In-Reply-To: <43065524.9060603@pbw.id.au> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.92.0.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 056adf76-a3b8-4c28-baa7-b72fa50e96f8 X-Archives-Hash: c866cfdb512b9c9a48f7c5fd4f29acbb -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Peter B. West wrote: > > Don't worry about it. Debate is not a dirty word, as far as I'm concerned. > > However, I am concerned that support for J5 is held up by what, to me, > are completely peripheral concerns. I've read the Stallman "philosophy" > about the Java Trap, and I put it on a par with his contributions to the > Bitkeeper debate. I'm using Java 5 *now*, and I'm a new convert to > Gentoo. I looks as though I'm better off abandoning ebuilds for Java > apps and development tools, and going back to the manual maintenance I > was using under FC3. Well the java herd always needs more people improving the ebuilds. There are 151 ebuilds in the dev-java category and only a few active devs. So please instead of going the manual way, file bugs at bugs.gentoo.org. > > In case you're wondering, I use J5 for open source development. > I don't think there are any problems using J5 for development at the moment. Just don't use it as the system vm. Of course installing masked packages can make users a little unconfortable. > > Peter > Petteri -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFDBxbVcxLzpIGCsLQRAgHaAJ9Y2hdYvc9DuzxNYBgTwUN6FYJVogCfY2oY AiBUrxW5dZPnnQvEQ85CZHQ= =ViJo -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- gentoo-java@gentoo.org mailing list