* [gentoo-java] GNU Classpath distro DevJam
@ 2005-08-17 14:02 Mark Wielaard
2005-08-17 19:02 ` Karl Trygve Kalleberg
2005-08-30 12:44 ` [gentoo-java] GNU Classpath distro DevJam "Europe" (Oldenburg, Germany, 23 - 25 September) Mark Wielaard
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From: Mark Wielaard @ 2005-08-17 14:02 UTC (permalink / raw
To: classpath, jpackage-discuss, gentoo-java, ubuntu-devel,
fedora-devel-java-list, debian-java
Cc: Danese Cooper, Kurt Gramlich, Michael Koch, Andreas Schuldei,
Petter Reinholdtsen
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Hi all,
Various Debian packagers and developers are interested in coming
together to improve the Free Software tool chain, the programs and
the free runtime environments for software written in the java
programming language.
For such a meeting we would like to include packagers from various
distributions to coordinate on library names, dependency and
versioning. And to share experiences on how to integrate and map
dependencies of tools like ant and maven when creating traditional
GNU/Linux distribution packages.
So we are proposing a developer and packager meeting around
coordinating and improving the state of packaging of large scale
applications written in the java programming language using the GNU
Classpath, gcj and other free java-like tool chains for the various
GNU/Linux distributions.
Please see DevJam wiki for details:
http://java.debian.net/index.php/DevJam
We hope to get together a group of (20 till 30) people wanting to do
some hands on hacking to show the state of the art in packaging.
Resulting in the availability of several new packages, improvements to
the free tool chains and cross-distribution packaging conventions
quickly after the meeting.
One of the ideas to keep the cost down for now is sharing the meeting
with another group in Oldenburg, Germany, from September 21st to
September 25th. http://meeting.ffis.de/Oldenburg2005/
If you are interested please add you name and thoughts about how to
make such a meeting most effective to the wiki! And please contact us
if you are interested in sponsoring the effort.
Cheers,
Mark
--
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* Re: [gentoo-java] GNU Classpath distro DevJam
2005-08-17 14:02 [gentoo-java] GNU Classpath distro DevJam Mark Wielaard
@ 2005-08-17 19:02 ` Karl Trygve Kalleberg
2005-08-22 12:54 ` Mark Wielaard
2005-08-30 12:44 ` [gentoo-java] GNU Classpath distro DevJam "Europe" (Oldenburg, Germany, 23 - 25 September) Mark Wielaard
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From: Karl Trygve Kalleberg @ 2005-08-17 19:02 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-java
Mark Wielaard wrote:
> If you are interested please add you name and thoughts about how to
> make such a meeting most effective to the wiki! And please contact us
> if you are interested in sponsoring the effort.
It seems that I won't have the opportunity to go, but we should
definitely send a Gentoo representative. Petteri (Betelgeuse) has
volunteered, but also admitted he's a pretty recent addition to the team.
If some of the more experienced developers have the time and
inclination, please step forward soon, so we can start coming up with a
plan for what we want to say as a distribution on this meeting
Cheers,
-- Karl T
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gentoo-java@gentoo.org mailing list
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* Re: [gentoo-java] GNU Classpath distro DevJam
2005-08-17 19:02 ` Karl Trygve Kalleberg
@ 2005-08-22 12:54 ` Mark Wielaard
2005-08-22 22:05 ` Karl Trygve Kalleberg
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From: Mark Wielaard @ 2005-08-22 12:54 UTC (permalink / raw
To: Karl Trygve Kalleberg; +Cc: gentoo-java
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Hi,
On Wed, 2005-08-17 at 21:02 +0200, Karl Trygve Kalleberg wrote:
> It seems that I won't have the opportunity to go, but we should
> definitely send a Gentoo representative. Petteri (Betelgeuse) has
> volunteered, but also admitted he's a pretty recent addition to the team.
>
> If some of the more experienced developers have the time and
> inclination, please step forward soon, so we can start coming up with a
> plan for what we want to say as a distribution on this meeting
Yes, please add anything you think is important as background material
for better understanding how gentoo integrates (or doesn't integrate)
with jpackage, gcj, kaffe, etc to the meeting wiki:
http://java.debian.net/index.php/DevJam
And please add yourself as an interested party even if you cannot attend
because of the time and place and add a little note that you cannot
attend because of the time/place. If there are a lot of people
interested from the various distros for which Oldenburg next month is
inconvenient that we want to look at some other meeting place/date.
If there are enough people listed/interested I also want to setup a
cross-distro mailinglist to discuss the hacking oppertunities for the
DevJam meeting.
Thanks,
Mark
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* Re: [gentoo-java] GNU Classpath distro DevJam
2005-08-22 12:54 ` Mark Wielaard
@ 2005-08-22 22:05 ` Karl Trygve Kalleberg
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From: Karl Trygve Kalleberg @ 2005-08-22 22:05 UTC (permalink / raw
To: Mark Wielaard; +Cc: gentoo-java
Mark Wielaard wrote:
> Yes, please add anything you think is important as background material
> for better understanding how gentoo integrates (or doesn't integrate)
> with jpackage, gcj, kaffe, etc to the meeting wiki:
> http://java.debian.net/index.php/DevJam
>
> And please add yourself as an interested party even if you cannot attend
> because of the time and place and add a little note that you cannot
> attend because of the time/place. If there are a lot of people
> interested from the various distros for which Oldenburg next month is
> inconvenient that we want to look at some other meeting place/date.
Been traveling again. Will do so one of the coming days.
> If there are enough people listed/interested I also want to setup a
> cross-distro mailinglist to discuss the hacking oppertunities for the
> DevJam meeting.
There's already the cojapas list (cojapas@zarg.org) that was intended
for the more general case of discussing cross-distro Java packaging, but
it's very quiet these days. I suggest we use that.
Cheers,
-- Karl T
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gentoo-java@gentoo.org mailing list
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* [gentoo-java] GNU Classpath distro DevJam "Europe" (Oldenburg, Germany, 23 - 25 September)
2005-08-17 14:02 [gentoo-java] GNU Classpath distro DevJam Mark Wielaard
2005-08-17 19:02 ` Karl Trygve Kalleberg
@ 2005-08-30 12:44 ` Mark Wielaard
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From: Mark Wielaard @ 2005-08-30 12:44 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-java
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Hi all,
On Wed, 2005-08-17 at 16:02 +0200, Mark Wielaard wrote:
> Various Debian packagers and developers are interested in coming
> together to improve the Free Software tool chain, the programs and
> the free runtime environments for software written in the java
> programming language.
>
> For such a meeting we would like to include packagers from various
> distributions to coordinate on library names, dependency and
> versioning. And to share experiences on how to integrate and map
> dependencies of tools like ant and maven when creating traditional
> GNU/Linux distribution packages.
>
> So we are proposing a developer and packager meeting around
> coordinating and improving the state of packaging of large scale
> applications written in the java programming language using the GNU
> Classpath, gcj and other free java-like tool chains for the various
> GNU/Linux distributions.
>
> Please see DevJam wiki for details:
> http://java.debian.net/index.php/DevJam
>
> We hope to get together a group of (20 till 30) people wanting to do
> some hands on hacking to show the state of the art in packaging.
> Resulting in the availability of several new packages, improvements to
> the free tool chains and cross-distribution packaging conventions
> quickly after the meeting.
We got a lot of interest for this meeting and would like to announce
that we will have a gathering in Oldenburg, Germany on Friday 23 till
Sunday 25 September.
To reduce the costs the meeting will be shared with the Oldenburg Linux
Developers Meeting 2005 group: http://meeting.ffis.de/Oldenburg2005/
There will be cheap accommodation for those that bring their own
sleeping bags and mattress. See for more information on Oldenburg and
how to get there by car, train or plane:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oldenburg
http://meeting.ffis.de/Oldenburg2004/routing.html
If you haven't added your name to the interested people list on the wiki
please do so soon: http://java.debian.net/index.php/DevJam
We hope people can arrive on Thursday evening so we can start fresh and
early on Friday 23th of September.
Since we know that there has also been a lot of interest of people
outside Europe we would like to make this our "European" meeting and
schedule a "Worldwide" or "Regional" DevJam++ meeting in a couple of
months to give more people the opportunity to attend. If you are
interested in helping to organize that please add suggestions to the
Wiki: http://java.debian.net/index.php/DevJam++
Cheers,
Mark
--
Escape the Java Trap with GNU Classpath!
http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/java-trap.html
Join the community at http://planet.classpath.org/
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