From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1GMEl5-0004cs-N4 for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sun, 10 Sep 2006 02:09:20 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.8/8.13.6) with SMTP id k8A28tJ3007603; Sun, 10 Sep 2006 02:08:55 GMT Received: from brmea-mail-2.sun.com (brmea-mail-2.Sun.COM [192.18.98.43]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.8/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k8A28sKN029027 for ; Sun, 10 Sep 2006 02:08:55 GMT Received: from fe-amer-10.sun.com ([192.18.108.184]) by brmea-mail-2.sun.com (8.13.6+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id k8A28qPr018261 for ; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 20:08:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: from conversion-daemon.mail-amer.sun.com by mail-amer.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-4.02 (built Sep 9 2005)) id <0J5C00701TLM9O00@mail-amer.sun.com> (original mail from David.Herron@Sun.COM) for gentoo-java@lists.gentoo.org; Sat, 09 Sep 2006 20:08:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [192.168.0.101] ([66.92.11.96]) by mail-amer.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-4.02 (built Sep 9 2005)) with ESMTPSA id <0J5C005Y5TYSPQ8K@mail-amer.sun.com>; Sat, 09 Sep 2006 20:08:52 -0600 (MDT) Date: Sat, 09 Sep 2006 19:08:48 -0700 From: David Herron Subject: [gentoo-java] Java Open Source - was: Re: Sun JDK fetching In-reply-to: <1157826802.21666.15.camel@greg.tassoneent.com> Sender: David.Herron@Sun.COM To: Greg Tassone Cc: gentoo-java@lists.gentoo.org Message-id: <1EA0DFF8-D7B4-4B08-9B1B-436D7E4A55AA@sun.com> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-java@gentoo.org MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; delsp=yes; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT References: <42813AE2.7060906@gentoo.org> <1115826068.4333.233901247@webmail.messagingengine.com> <42825462.7020200@fastmail.fm> <1115890826.16844.233965396@webmail.messagingengine.com> <42833248.3000909@kaffe.org> <1115906306.11150.233981021@webmail.messagingengine.com> <1157826802.21666.15.camel@greg.tassoneent.com> X-Archives-Salt: 32ee0278-b239-4e85-87ec-b215cf315f20 X-Archives-Hash: 211415ba9726ed6e85df989defca343d Greg, thank you for your reply. We have said through several people at several times, for Java we will be using an OSI-approved license. I haven't heard that a license choice has been made. But the team is, so far as I've seen, very intent on adopting a proper open source attitude and project set- up. Not that it will be that way out of the gate ... we have a long history behind us with institutional wisdom surrounding the processes we've been following. I don't think you can just throw a big switch and instantly make everything open-source-purist. FWIW, what will be released "soon" is the VM (or was it just HotSpot?), javac and javahelp. Other pieces will be coming later on. An example is the Open Solaris process which took 5 yrs before they were able to even launch the beginning of the open source project, and then it was several months beyond that of getting pieces in place, governance settled, etc. I sincerely hope we do this properly as well. If you guys have any thoughts, desires, advice, etc about how we're doing this let me know. - David Herron On Sep 9, 2006, at 11:33 AM, Greg Tassone wrote: > Great response... thanks for taking the time -- I was about to do so > myself. ... > > Here's to the future. I hope Sun walks openly and properly into this > new era (chooses a good OSI license, etc.) within the next month or > two. > If so, IMHO, Java will become a dominating force across the Open > Source > world as it has in other walks of life. > > ~ Greg > -- gentoo-java@gentoo.org mailing list