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  2006-05-09 18:56 [gentoo-java] [experimental overlay] dev-util/eclipse-sdk-3.2_rc2 masked Uwe Klosa
@ 2006-05-12 16:25 ` ezio.bernaudo
  2006-05-13  2:06   ` David Gurvich
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From: ezio.bernaudo @ 2006-05-12 16:25 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-java


>-- Original Message --
>Date: Tue, 09 May 2006 20:56:35 +0200
>From: Uwe Klosa <uwe.klosa@ub.uu.se>
>To: gentoo-java <gentoo-java@lists.gentoo.org>
>Subject: [gentoo-java] [experimental overlay] dev-util/eclipse-sdk-3.2_rc2
>masked
>
>
>I tried to emerge dev-util/eclipse-sdk-3.2_rc2 but it says:
>
>!!! All ebuilds that could satisfy "=dev-util/eclipse-sdk-3.2_rc2" have
been
>masked.
>!!! One of the following masked packages is required to complete your request:
>- dev-util/eclipse-sdk-3.2_rc2 (masked by: missing keyword)
>
>How do I have to deal with that. Adding the ebuild to /etc/portage/package.unmask
>and /etc/portage/package.keywords does not solve the
>problem.
>
>/Uwe
>
>Attachment: uwe.klosa.vcf
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  2006-05-12 16:25 ` [gentoo-java] unsubscribe ezio.bernaudo
@ 2006-05-13  2:06   ` David Gurvich
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From: David Gurvich @ 2006-05-13  2:06 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-java

:You need to add the keyword to the ebuild or use the ebuild command directly.  
There is a utility ekeyword to help, but you could add it manually.
On Friday 12 May 2006 12:25 pm, ezio.bernaudo@fastwebnet.it wrote:
> >-- Original Message --
> >Date: Tue, 09 May 2006 20:56:35 +0200
> >From: Uwe Klosa <uwe.klosa@ub.uu.se>
> >To: gentoo-java <gentoo-java@lists.gentoo.org>
> >Subject: [gentoo-java] [experimental overlay] dev-util/eclipse-sdk-3.2_rc2
> >masked
> >
> >
> >I tried to emerge dev-util/eclipse-sdk-3.2_rc2 but it says:
> >
> >!!! All ebuilds that could satisfy "=dev-util/eclipse-sdk-3.2_rc2" have
>
> been
>
> >masked.
> >!!! One of the following masked packages is required to complete your
> > request: - dev-util/eclipse-sdk-3.2_rc2 (masked by: missing keyword)
> >
> >How do I have to deal with that. Adding the ebuild to
> > /etc/portage/package.unmask and /etc/portage/package.keywords does not
> > solve the
> >problem.
> >
> >/Uwe
> >
> >Attachment: uwe.klosa.vcf

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  2006-07-31 20:40 ` Joshua Nichols
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  2006-07-31 19:52 ` Joshua Nichols
@ 2006-07-31 20:35   ` Ezio Bernaudo
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From: Ezio Bernaudo @ 2006-07-31 20:35 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-java

Alle 21:52, lunedì 31 luglio 2006, Joshua Nichols ha scritto:
> Daniel wrote:
> > Hi,
> > the installation of Java on Gentoo is the hell on earth!
>
> I'm sure lots of people would disagree. In fact, I do hear fairly often
> that our support of Java very good.
>
> > - the installation is non transparent
>
> Care to elaborate? If you emerge java packages, things should just work,
> ie the appropriate JDK will be pulled for building.
>
> > - the java-"help"-utils (java-config, java-config-wrapper) are not
> > acceptable, because you don't really need them
>
> How are they not acceptable? They are absolutely necessary actually, as
> they are used for configuring and building Java on Gentoo
>
> > - the whole solution of installing more than one jdk is bumptious - so
> > not easy
> > handable
>
> I... really don't get what you saying. According to the handy
> dictionary.reference.com site, bumptious means 'Crudely or loudly
> assertive; pushy.' I don't really how supporting multiple JDKs is pushy
> or supportive. It just offers a lot more flexibility. In particular, it
> gives a lot of power when it come time for a new Java release, such that
> we can use the stable and widely used version, while all the issues with
> various packages are being worked out with the new version.
>
> > This meens that it takes long time to install java and that you need to
> > do some
> > terrible thinks (e.g. unmasking some packages ... see
> > http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/java/java-upgrade.xml).
>
> Terrible thinks? It is a new system for handling Java.... so of course
> it needs to be in testing keywords. Or perhaps would you prefer it were
> marked stable and then have all sorts of fun breakages for our stable
> packages? No one forces you to unmask anything. Most times people using
> stable keywords run into the new Java system because they decided to
> package.unmask Java 1.5. (And please note, there is a difference between
> using testing keywords, ie ~x86, and using stuff in package.mask... the
> latter are known to cause problems or are undergoing heavy testing)
>
> > This is not the way gentoo should go because this is to heavy for the
> > user (that mostly just wants to install a jdk :) )!
>
> If you don't have anything Java related installed, you can just emerge
> the JDK. If you do have Java stuff installed, chances are you already
> have one installed, and nothing is stopping you from emerging a
> different one.
>
> > So I have collected some points _we_ should think about:
> > - why is jdk-1.5 still under development?
>
> http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/java/tiger-faq.xml should spell out some
> of it. And I'm not sure what you mean by under development. I presume
> you mean testing keywords? If so, this is standard policy, because it
> 1.5 has only recently come out of package.mask.
>
> > - is it really necessary to install an jdk-1.4 and jdk-1.5? - if yes, why
> > you don't need to install jdk-1.3?
>
> Yes, it REALLY is necessary. First off, some packages are known to break
> with Java 1.5. These will eventually can be patched. Second, every
> package not using the new Java system needs to be built with Java 1.4 to
> avoid the problems mentioned in the FAQ. It isn't necessary to install
> 1.3 because apparently, everything works with Java 1.4 that worked with
> Java 1.3.
>
> > - gentoo should never make a difference between jdk 1.4 and 1.5
>
> Um... no. There does need to be a difference. I'm going to assume that
> you just aren't familar enough with the differences between the two.
> Just a few points:
>
> * There is a different version of bytecode between major revisions of
> JDKs, ie from 1.3 to 1.4, 1.4 to 1.5. Bytecode is forward compatible (ie
> use 1.4 bytecode in 1.5 JRE), but not backward compatible.
> * There is a new keyword, enum. Therefore, code using enum as a variable
> code fails to compile
> * Java 1.5 has new APIs for XML at least. It introduces new abstract
> methods on some abstract classes and interfaces. The result is that when
> classes fail to compile which use these abstract classes and interfaces,
> and haven't specifically update to support the new API
>
> > - java-config should just generate some environment files to set a
> > special vm
>
> What's a special VM?
>
> > - if an ebuild requires a special vm (why ever, because the api of the
> > jdk is compatible in most points) it should gnerate a warning, that the
> > vm should be set to 1.x
>
> See my previous points about compatibility.
>
> > - it is the problem of the user if there are two java applications which
> > need different vms (this problem is much easier to solve than installing
> > java ;)).
>
> The new Java system actually handles this. We basically create
> 'launchers' for this, which read information about the packages it
> needs, and figures out if it can run in the current VM. If it doesn't,
> it will switch to one.
>
> > I hope you will not understand this bug as an act of aggression - it
> > should just help Gentoo.
>
> I hope you understand that it is easy to misunderstand comments to the
> effect of 'Java on Gentoo being hell on earth' as being aggressive.
>
> --
> Joshua Nichols
> Gentoo/Java - Project Lead

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* [gentoo-java] Last rites: several 1.4 jdk and jre packages
@ 2009-11-17 18:26 Vlastimil Babka
  2009-11-17 20:06 ` [gentoo-java] unsubscribe Uwe Barthel
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From: Vlastimil Babka @ 2009-11-17 18:26 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-java, gentoo-dev-announce

The long overdue removal of 1.4 java is starting. Nothing in tree 
depends on these now.

+# Vlastimil Babka <caster@gentoo.org> (17 Nov 2009)
+# Removal for EOL and security, bug #287615
+=app-emulation/emul-linux-x86-java-1.4*
+=dev-java/sun-jdk-1.4*
+=dev-java/sun-jre-bin-1.4*
+=dev-java/ibm-jre-bin-1.4*
+dev-java/blackdown-jre
+dev-java/blackdown-jdk

The JDK's might be moved to java-overlay (and unstabled) since there's 
still some stuff depending on them.

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