Great response... thanks for taking the time -- I was about to do so myself. On Sat, 2006-09-09 at 08:49 -0700, David Herron wrote: > Actually we are offering Sun's JDK under a free license that allows > any Solaris or Linux distribution to redistribute the binary. I've > been working with Joshua and Karl to help/advise them on integrating > Sun's JDK with Gentoo under that new license. Thanks for assisting the Gentoo distro (and therefore all of us) in this way. > I just read the email thread you're responding > to, and it was a painful walk down memory lane. ... > Hopefully between the DLJ license and the imminent > beginning for open source Java, that we can put all the past pain > behind us. I hope *strongly* for the same. I observe a huge amount of idealogical-based dislike of the Java platform/language in the Open Source world. IMO, the overarching reason for this is due to current licensing issues. Without commenting on the merits of that view, I eagerly hope for the day I can have a straight-forward, unencumbered technical discussion with such folks on the massive value of Java. At least then our technical flame-wars can be based on the appropriate topic. ;-) Here's to the future. I hope Sun walks openly and properly into this new era (chooses a good OSI license, etc.) within the next month or two. If so, IMHO, Java will become a dominating force across the Open Source world as it has in other walks of life. ~ Greg