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[gentoo-java] New Sun JDK/JRE license for Linux distributions

[Ted Kosan]

I am at JavaOne this week and this morning at the main keynote Sun announced
their new license for Linux distributions:

https://jdk-distros.dev.java.net

Debian and Ubuntu seem to be moving forward with the new license.  What are the
gentoo-java group's thoughts on it?

Thanks,

Ted
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Re: [gentoo-java] New Sun JDK/JRE license for Linux distributions

[David Gurvich]

Is there going to be a port to ppc?
On Tuesday 16 May 2006 4:28 pm, Ted Kosan wrote:
> I am at JavaOne this week and this morning at the main keynote Sun
> announced their new license for Linux distributions:
>
> https://jdk-distros.dev.java.net
>
> Debian and Ubuntu seem to be moving forward with the new license.  What are
> the gentoo-java group's thoughts on it?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ted

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Re: [gentoo-java] New Sun JDK/JRE license for Linux distributions

[Ted Kosan]

David Gurvich wrote:

> Is there going to be a port to ppc?

My understanding is that they just released a port for the PowerPC but it is
being targeted towards embedded developers:

http://java.sun.com/j2se/embedded


Hope this helps,

Ted Kosan
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Re: [gentoo-java] New Sun JDK/JRE license for Linux distributions

[Karl Trygve Kalleberg]

David Gurvich wrote:
> Is there going to be a port to ppc?

In case anbody wonders: The current distribution license, DLJ-1.1, only
gives us the right redistribute the pre-built binaries from Sun. On
Linux, only amd64 and x86 are supported.

Hopefully, a ppc port will materialize. If nothing else, once Sun slaps
on an OSI-approved license, I'm sure the community will make available a
proper PPC port relatively quickly.


Chers,

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Re: [gentoo-java] New Sun JDK/JRE license for Linux distributions

[Greg Tassone]

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On Tue, 2006-05-16 at 13:28 -0700, Ted Kosan wrote:
> I am at JavaOne this week and this morning at the main keynote Sun announced
> their new license for Linux distributions:
...
> Debian and Ubuntu seem to be moving forward with the new license.  What are the
> gentoo-java group's thoughts on it?


According to this article on CNet, the Gentoo distro will be moving
forward with it as well:

http://news.com.com/Sun+promises+to+open-source+Java/2100-7344_3-6072760.html?tag=nefd.lede

(NOTE:  See the bottom of the article for these particular details...
the rest pertains to the announcement of soon-to-be-coming Open Sourced
Java!)

~ Greg


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Re: [gentoo-java] New Sun JDK/JRE license for Linux distributions

[John Manko]

I didn't see anything from Gentoo.  If this is so, I'm disturbed that 
they didn't release something to mailing list beforehand (assuming I 
didn't miss anything). 

Anyone suspect this is a response to Harmony and/or Google?

Greg Tassone wrote:

>On Tue, 2006-05-16 at 13:28 -0700, Ted Kosan wrote:
>  
>
>>I am at JavaOne this week and this morning at the main keynote Sun announced
>>their new license for Linux distributions:
>>    
>>
>...
>  
>
>>Debian and Ubuntu seem to be moving forward with the new license.  What are the
>>gentoo-java group's thoughts on it?
>>    
>>
>
>
>According to this article on CNet, the Gentoo distro will be moving
>forward with it as well:
>
>http://news.com.com/Sun+promises+to+open-source+Java/2100-7344_3-6072760.html?tag=nefd.lede
>
>(NOTE:  See the bottom of the article for these particular details...
>the rest pertains to the announcement of soon-to-be-coming Open Sourced
>Java!)
>
>~ Greg
>
>  
>

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Re: [gentoo-java] New Sun JDK/JRE license for Linux distributions

[Karl Trygve Kalleberg]

John Manko wrote:
> I didn't see anything from Gentoo.  If this is so, I'm disturbed that
> they didn't release something to mailing list beforehand (assuming I
> didn't miss anything).

I don't see why you feel so disturbed. Sun invited us early, but
reserved the right to announce this themselves first. I don't see why
that would upset you (or anybody else, for that matter).

You may argue that we should have announced it to the mailing list
simultaneously with the JavaOne announcement, but I wasn't online for
the last few days, and now, the cat is well out of the bag.

Furthermore, we engaged the Gentoo PR team well in advance, so due
process was followed on the part of the Java Team, imho.

Cheers,

-- Karl T
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Re: [gentoo-java] New Sun JDK/JRE license for Linux distributions

[Karl Trygve Kalleberg]

Ted Kosan wrote:
> I am at JavaOne this week and this morning at the main keynote Sun announced
> their new license for Linux distributions:
> 
> https://jdk-distros.dev.java.net
> 
> Debian and Ubuntu seem to be moving forward with the new license.  What are the
> gentoo-java group's thoughts on it?

We were contacted by Sun about a month ago, and they informed us of the
upcoming license change, and sent us a copy for us to evaluate. We read
it, and found that it allows us to mirror, i.e. redistribute the Sun
JDK/JRE.

Therefore, I whipped up an ebuild last week, and placed it our
experimental overlay this weekend, but on request from Sun, we didn't
pre-announce this, so as to not steal their thunder.

For those who have lurked on our IRC channel, you may have had reason to
believe that something was coming.


As you guys know, we're still in a package freeze due to 1.5 migration.
Even so, I suspect that we'll be making an exception and updating at
least the 1.5 JRE in the Portage tree relatively soon, perhaps also the JDK.


-- Karl T
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