On Sat, 2005-12-24 at 16:34 +0200, Petteri Räty wrote: > At the moment we have old versions of at least > dev-java/{kaffe,jamvm,sablevm} marked stable. The open source java stack > is starting to be usable but these old versions certainly are not drop > in replacements for the proprietary ones. This in mind I propose that we > move everything to ~arch and re-evaluate them going stable when the time > is right. To give everyone time for objections I plan on moving the > versions to ~arch in January. I think the above statements need some clarification. Are you saying that you want to take the currently-marked-as-stable versions of these packages in Portage and change them to ~arch? If so, that is probably a bad idea for several reasons, chief of which is the many questions/complaints we will all receive when world updates are trying to downgrade packages, or worse, when the new Portage starts complaining about a broken state of the world file due to "No packages being available for [whatever]". Instead I would suggest leaving the existing flags as-is, and bump revs on (new) ebuilds (or newer versions if they exist) and just flag those as appropriate. I think most/all folks using those packages are aware of their limited compatibility with the proprietary VM's. Therefore, the risk of leaving the current versions "stable" is probably minimal. As a worst-case, if you're really concerned about users misconstruing the supposed "stable" status of these packages, you could always add some einfo/ewarn style messages to explain it on those versions. JMHO. Greg