From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.54) id 1FE6tc-00010l-R6 for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Tue, 28 Feb 2006 15:36:17 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.5/8.13.5) with SMTP id k1SFXtPq029110; Tue, 28 Feb 2006 15:33:55 GMT Received: from ulm114.server4you.de (ulm114.server4you.de [62.75.202.190]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id k1SFXs3V008269 for ; Tue, 28 Feb 2006 15:33:54 GMT Received: from ulm114.server4you.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ulm114.server4you.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id D989320C0EB for ; Tue, 28 Feb 2006 16:34:54 +0100 (CET) Received: from 141.38.43.231 (SquirrelMail authenticated user web2p1) by ulm114.server4you.de with HTTP; Tue, 28 Feb 2006 16:34:54 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <47103.141.38.43.231.1141140894.squirrel@ulm114.server4you.de> In-Reply-To: <44044871.200@gentoo.org> References: <44044871.200@gentoo.org> Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 16:34:54 +0100 (CET) Subject: Re: [gentoo-installer] version 0.3 of the Gentoo Linux Installer From: Norman =?iso-8859-1?Q?Rie=DF?= To: gentoo-installer@lists.gentoo.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.5 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-installer@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-installer@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by robin.gentoo.org id k1SFXtQS029110 X-Archives-Salt: 06c63873-ee83-4828-925d-1fd53c26fa8b X-Archives-Hash: cb30234168cae016126e740ce019428c But see it with the eyes of a random Gentoo beginner. You come to the "USE Flags" screen seeing some settings. You think "That are surely some nice settings. Otherwise they wouldn=B4t be set as defaul= t". But then you choose KDE. Now you have a KDE system with "+gnome -kde" as USE Flags. The installer should build a USE-flag suggestion out of the previous user input. You didn=B4t select samba to be installed, so the "samba" USE-Flag isn=B4= t set by default. You have no xorg selected, so why suggests the installer "X" as USE-flag. This is simply not right! You could say. "These users should know what flags to set". And some will, no doubt. But many people will say "Uhh. They have an installer now. Let=B4s try Gentoo". (It allready started, look at some tech-forums ;-)) And some of these people will install a system with simply wrong USE-flag= s. > LinuxMan wrote: >> I agree with Norman, why show something if it's not relevant. It just >> confuses things. Shouldn't be to hard to comment out un-related option= s >> based on the users previous input. > > Because the installer has no way to know what isn't relevant. While we > could > hardcode the services that every package in the tree at the time of the > snapshot > offers and display them if that package is selected to be emerged, that= 's > just > kinda dumb. Also, this wouldn't cover the case of people using an > up-to-date tree. > > -- > Andrew Gaffney http://dev.gentoo.org/~agaffn= ey/ > Gentoo Linux Developer Installer Proj= ect > -- > gentoo-installer@gentoo.org mailing list > > --=20 gentoo-installer@gentoo.org mailing list