From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EH8Su-00034t-UH for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sun, 18 Sep 2005 23:20:57 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.5/8.13.5) with SMTP id j8INEl40025222; Sun, 18 Sep 2005 23:14:47 GMT Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.200]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id j8INEkL7020681 for ; Sun, 18 Sep 2005 23:14:46 GMT Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id k1so4095nzf for ; Sun, 18 Sep 2005 16:20:17 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:x-accept-language:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=GTUOJk15hdHHc7iQjWa2Jd8OB7gutC+ot3xhLxTSIeS+1j8p6qiGnoeuXYX+3dbsA+iP7TTLp5tgYpj1YyXa2wppxKEaq4J3dUiJlNQ+l48cX0W+qv8YNcaI2XFdJBJRDrWEzUVXCXaxiMDzUweqApKJBbDZDDS/iz531hy1I4o= Received: by 10.36.82.6 with SMTP id f6mr2376306nzb; Sun, 18 Sep 2005 16:20:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.1.104? ( [24.30.171.44]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id j4sm3806583nzd.2005.09.18.16.20.16; Sun, 18 Sep 2005 16:20:17 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <432DF4CB.1050304@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2005 16:14:19 -0700 From: Zac Medico User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (X11/20050804) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-installer@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-installer@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-installer@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-installer] educating users References: <432DE560.5070200@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: <432DE560.5070200@gentoo.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 616ee685-637e-461e-8335-2ed6bac2e55d X-Archives-Hash: fb9e737f671769fbc7dabd7c4d606836 Andrew Gaffney wrote: > This is something that's been in the back of my mind for a while, but I > haven't really come up with any good solutions for. > > With the release of the installer, we will be getting a lot of users who > have never done a manual install and haven't/won't read the handbook. > This is obviously not desirable due to the increased amount of dumb > questions that will flood #gentoo and the gentoo-user ML. > > My idea was for a "quiz" from the handbook before the user is allowed to > use the installer. This would force them to atleast skim the handbook > before using the installer. This idea has been met with a lot of > resistance by other developers, even though I had a lot of support for > it about 6-8 months back. > > Do anyone else have a better idea? > I am strongly opposed to a quiz because it could possibly put an unnecessary burden on technically qualified people. I would prefer a strong warning message as suggested by Michael. If they exist, we will find ways to deal with the "floods of newbies" who disregard the warning. For example, we could have separate channels/mailing lists for newbies. If they use the wrong channel/list, then we should politely inform them that they have breached the accepted etiquette standards and point them in the right direction. Zac -- gentoo-installer@gentoo.org mailing list