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From: "John Walsh" <high@linuxmail.org>
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Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2005 12:05:29 +0800
Subject: Re: [gentoo-installer] Gentoo installer vs current installation
 method, what about later?
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Don't get mad, Andrew Gaffney answered my question, ok?
I was worried about you cutting out a bunch of things, that's all.

Gabriel

----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Gianelloni" <wolf31o2@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-installer@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-installer] Gentoo installer vs current installation	method, what about later?
Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 14:47:36 -0400

> 
> On Fri, 2005-10-21 at 02:17 +0800, John Walsh wrote:
> > But I like the non-X liveCD (not the minimal, the Universal), everybody has X
> > livecd's and the simplicity and power of the current livecd is unmatched.
> > Is there no way of keeping the same Universal LiveCD as is now 
> > for those users that
> > prefer it? I mean, when a system is down, there is no need to 
> > start X and have open-office and x-chat, xine, mplayer, xmms, etc 
> > on the CD, but as many tools as possible, like it is now to get 
> > it back up.
> 
> Were you paying attention at all?  I said that it will be capable of
> booting directly to a terminal.  Even the current LiveCD can do that.
> Simply boot with "nox" and you're at the terminal.
> 
> At any rate, no, there is no way we are keeping the Universal CD when we
> will have another CD that is approximately the same size on the mirrors
> and is a superset of its functionality.  I don't like wasting my time
> implementing something with no real use.
> 
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Chris Gianelloni" <wolf31o2@gentoo.org>
> > To: gentoo-installer@lists.gentoo.org
> > Subject: Re: [gentoo-installer] Gentoo installer vs current 
> > installation	method, what about later?
> > Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 14:53:48 -0400
> >
> > > > On Thu, 2005-10-20 at 01:59 +0800, John Walsh wrote:
> > > > Hello all,
> > > >
> > > > I just need some enlightenment, is the gentoo installer going 
> > to > > REPLACE the current methode or is it going to
> > > > be an aleternative, like choosing in between expert/manual 
> > (the > > current method) and easy (the gentoo installer).
> > > > The reason I ask this is because I like the current install > 
> > > method via the livecd and I use that livecd A LOT when
> > > > I have to solve some problems on a linux (and even window$) > 
> > > partition. I wouldn't not want to be able to still use the 
> > livecd > > as it is currently usable, because I think it is the 
> > best livecd > > out there. If it is going to completely
> > > > replace the current livecd installation method then is there 
> > > > going to someone at Gentoo to keep up the livecd
> > > > tradition?
> > > > The concept I have in place for future releases is pretty simple.  There
> > > will be 2 CD images per architecture.
> > > > 1.  Minimal InstallCD
> > > 2.  Installer LiveCD
> > > > There will also be stages 1, 2, and 3 on the mirrors.  You will still be
> > > able to do a manual installation, but it will be highly discouraged,
> > > simply due to possible problems.
> > > > At any rate, when I say LiveCD, I mean the full-blown CD with X on it.
> > > This CD will be the replacement for both the Universal InstallCD and the
> > > PackageCD.  It will also be usable as a RescueCD, so essentially, it is
> > > filling three roles.
> > > > The Minimal InstallCD will be reduced even further to be usable for
> > > installation only.  Any non-installation-related packages will be
> > > removed from the CD.  I've been considering even removing some of the
> > > lesser-used drivers that typically cause problems and leaving them for
> > > the full LiveCD only.
> > > > You can, of course, still perform a manual installation using the
> > > LiveCD.  You aren't forced to use the Installer.  I, personally, only
> > > use the LiveCD, as I like having a complete environment available when
> > > doing troubleshooting, or even just being able to get on gaim while I'm
> > > waiting for my install to complete.
> > > > --
> > > Chris Gianelloni
> > > Release Engineering - Strategic Lead
> > > x86 Architecture Team
> > > Games - Developer
> > > Gentoo Linux
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