From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1ETAdU-00059j-Kp for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sat, 22 Oct 2005 04:05:37 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.5/8.13.5) with SMTP id j9M42fQs013912; Sat, 22 Oct 2005 04:02:41 GMT Received: from webmail-outgoing.us4.outblaze.com (webmail-outgoing.us4.outblaze.com [205.158.62.67]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id j9M42d3C003721 for ; Sat, 22 Oct 2005 04:02:40 GMT Received: from unknown (unknown [192.168.9.180]) by webmail-outgoing.us4.outblaze.com (Postfix) with QMQP id 024471800128 for ; Sat, 22 Oct 2005 04:05:30 +0000 (GMT) X-OB-Received: from unknown (205.158.62.232) by wfilter.us4.outblaze.com; 22 Oct 2005 04:05:29 -0000 Received: by ws5-11.us4.outblaze.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id C2CFDCA0A3; Sat, 22 Oct 2005 04:05:29 +0000 (GMT) Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-installer@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-installer@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 From: "John Walsh" To: gentoo-installer@lists.gentoo.org Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2005 12:05:29 +0800 Subject: Re: [gentoo-installer] Gentoo installer vs current installation method, what about later? Received: from [66.169.53.212] by ws5-11.us4.outblaze.com with http for high@linuxmail.org; Sat, 22 Oct 2005 12:05:29 +0800 X-Originating-Ip: 66.169.53.212 X-Originating-Server: ws5-11.us4.outblaze.com Message-Id: <20051022040529.C2CFDCA0A3@ws5-11.us4.outblaze.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by robin.gentoo.org id j9M42d3C003721 X-Archives-Salt: a1ab064e-6947-4615-bf5a-32081291585d X-Archives-Hash: d9353fe23b50b53359eb7fc1dc703380 Don't get mad, Andrew Gaffney answered my question, ok? I was worried about you cutting out a bunch of things, that's all. Gabriel ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Gianelloni" To: gentoo-installer@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-installer] Gentoo installer vs current installation method, what about later? Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 14:47:36 -0400 > > On Fri, 2005-10-21 at 02:17 +0800, John Walsh wrote: > > But I like the non-X liveCD (not the minimal, the Universal), everybody has X > > livecd's and the simplicity and power of the current livecd is unmatched. > > Is there no way of keeping the same Universal LiveCD as is now > > for those users that > > prefer it? I mean, when a system is down, there is no need to > > start X and have open-office and x-chat, xine, mplayer, xmms, etc > > on the CD, but as many tools as possible, like it is now to get > > it back up. > > Were you paying attention at all? I said that it will be capable of > booting directly to a terminal. Even the current LiveCD can do that. > Simply boot with "nox" and you're at the terminal. > > At any rate, no, there is no way we are keeping the Universal CD when we > will have another CD that is approximately the same size on the mirrors > and is a superset of its functionality. I don't like wasting my time > implementing something with no real use. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Chris Gianelloni" > > To: gentoo-installer@lists.gentoo.org > > Subject: Re: [gentoo-installer] Gentoo installer vs current > > installation method, what about later? > > Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 14:53:48 -0400 > > > > > > On Thu, 2005-10-20 at 01:59 +0800, John Walsh wrote: > > > > Hello all, > > > > > > > > I just need some enlightenment, is the gentoo installer going > > to > > REPLACE the current methode or is it going to > > > > be an aleternative, like choosing in between expert/manual > > (the > > current method) and easy (the gentoo installer). > > > > The reason I ask this is because I like the current install > > > > method via the livecd and I use that livecd A LOT when > > > > I have to solve some problems on a linux (and even window$) > > > > partition. I wouldn't not want to be able to still use the > > livecd > > as it is currently usable, because I think it is the > > best livecd > > out there. If it is going to completely > > > > replace the current livecd installation method then is there > > > > going to someone at Gentoo to keep up the livecd > > > > tradition? > > > > The concept I have in place for future releases is pretty simple. There > > > will be 2 CD images per architecture. > > > > 1. Minimal InstallCD > > > 2. Installer LiveCD > > > > There will also be stages 1, 2, and 3 on the mirrors. You will still be > > > able to do a manual installation, but it will be highly discouraged, > > > simply due to possible problems. > > > > At any rate, when I say LiveCD, I mean the full-blown CD with X on it. > > > This CD will be the replacement for both the Universal InstallCD and the > > > PackageCD. It will also be usable as a RescueCD, so essentially, it is > > > filling three roles. > > > > The Minimal InstallCD will be reduced even further to be usable for > > > installation only. Any non-installation-related packages will be > > > removed from the CD. I've been considering even removing some of the > > > lesser-used drivers that typically cause problems and leaving them for > > > the full LiveCD only. > > > > You can, of course, still perform a manual installation using the > > > LiveCD. You aren't forced to use the Installer. I, personally, only > > > use the LiveCD, as I like having a complete environment available when > > > doing troubleshooting, or even just being able to get on gaim while I'm > > > waiting for my install to complete. > > > > -- > > > Chris Gianelloni > > > Release Engineering - Strategic Lead > > > x86 Architecture Team > > > Games - Developer > > > Gentoo Linux > > << signature.asc >> > > > > > > -- _______________________________________________ > > Check out the latest SMS services @ http://www.linuxmail.org > > This allows you to send and receive SMS through your mailbox. > > > > Powered by Outblaze > > > -- > Chris Gianelloni > Release Engineering - Strategic Lead > x86 Architecture Team > Games - Developer > Gentoo Linux << signature.asc >> -- _______________________________________________ Check out the latest SMS services @ http://www.linuxmail.org This allows you to send and receive SMS through your mailbox. Powered by Outblaze -- gentoo-installer@gentoo.org mailing list