From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1ESg7I-00007U-JM for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Thu, 20 Oct 2005 19:30:21 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.5/8.13.5) with SMTP id j9KJRJt9025236; Thu, 20 Oct 2005 19:27:19 GMT Received: from web32712.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web32712.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.206.25]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.5/8.13.5) with SMTP id j9KJRHLA003569 for ; Thu, 20 Oct 2005 19:27:18 GMT Received: (qmail 92723 invoked by uid 60001); 20 Oct 2005 19:29:54 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=4DZ8tGkzzEnmUyjTtr6FR8W/HeC9asz8DmN+Zl7EbIiRhlZx/ge68Ua9nS/wLcQ0YETWuc2+xIVGwsTmTFQsjRaGMuwlh8OIcux+/JP9Tc+WWw83NvkJMGZrOR+/STKXzGHx40n20CCzvTSXXVAY91lvZ3Cmas/hOkJYeb3tS24= ; Message-ID: <20051020192954.92721.qmail@web32712.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [216.27.235.178] by web32712.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 20 Oct 2005 12:29:54 PDT Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 12:29:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Revrend Oddball Subject: Re: [gentoo-installer] Gentoo installer vs current installation method, what about later? To: gentoo-installer@lists.gentoo.org In-Reply-To: <2d28d7d90510201203i3f37ae49ndbb566513e4e89c5@mail.gmail.com> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-installer@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-installer@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Archives-Salt: b2bbf813-b011-412b-b93e-0060ddc65335 X-Archives-Hash: 81d4af7c419322958a09a86360f8c290 it would become the GRPlivecd? not a bad idea... be nice to consider. --- Mike Rosset wrote: > Thats a good idea, you could add a huge amount of distfiles to a dvd. heck > maybe even enough to do networkless install. > > On 10/20/05, Bedros Hanounik <2bedros@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > is it possible to have a liveDVD. These days, everyone has a DVD-ROM; and > > most people have DVD burners; nearly everyone has access to DVD burner > > through a friend or work. > > > > -B > > > > On 10/20/05, John Walsh wrote: > > > > > > But I like the non-X liveCD (not the minimal, the Universal), everybody > > > has X > > > livecd's and the simplicity and power of the current livecd is > > > unmatched. > > > Is there no way of keeping the same Universal LiveCD as is now for those > > > users that > > > prefer it? I mean, when a system is down, there is no need to start X > > > and have open-office and > > > x-chat, xine, mplayer, xmms, etc on the CD, but as many tools as > > > possible, like it is now to get it back up. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Gabriel > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Chris Gianelloni" > > > To: gentoo-installer@lists.gentoo.org > > > Subject: Re: [gentoo-installer] Gentoo installer vs current installation > > > method, what about later? > > > Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 14:53:48 -0400 > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, 2005-10-20 at 01:59 +0800, John Walsh wrote: > > > > > Hello all, > > > > > > > > > > I just need some enlightenment, is the gentoo installer going to > > > > > REPLACE the current methode or is it going to > > > > > be an aleternative, like choosing in between expert/manual (the > > > > > current method) and easy (the gentoo installer). > > > > > The reason I ask this is because I like the current install > > > > > method via the livecd and I use that livecd A LOT when > > > > > I have to solve some problems on a linux (and even window$) > > > > > partition. I wouldn't not want to be able to still use the livecd > > > > > as it is currently usable, because I think it is the best livecd > > > > > out there. If it is going to completely > > > > > replace the current livecd installation method then is there > > > > > going to someone at Gentoo to keep up the livecd > > > > > tradition? > > > > > > > > The concept I have in place for future releases is pretty simple. > > > There > > > > will be 2 CD images per architecture. > > > > > > > > 1. Minimal InstallCD > > > > 2. Installer LiveCD > > > > > > > > There will also be stages 1, 2, and 3 on the mirrors. You will still > > > be > > > > able to do a manual installation, but it will be highly discouraged, > > > > simply due to possible problems. > > > > > > > > At any rate, when I say LiveCD, I mean the full-blown CD with X on it. > > > > > > > This CD will be the replacement for both the Universal InstallCD and > > > the > > > > PackageCD. It will also be usable as a RescueCD, so essentially, it is > > > > filling three roles. > > > > > > > > The Minimal InstallCD will be reduced even further to be usable for > > > > installation only. Any non-installation-related packages will be > > > > removed from the CD. I've been considering even removing some of the > > > > lesser-used drivers that typically cause problems and leaving them for > > > > > > > the full LiveCD only. > > > > > > > > You can, of course, still perform a manual installation using the > > > > LiveCD. You aren't forced to use the Installer. I, personally, only > > > > use the LiveCD, as I like having a complete environment available when > > > > > > > doing troubleshooting, or even just being able to get on gaim while > > > I'm > > > > waiting for my install to complete. > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Chris Gianelloni > > > > Release Engineering - Strategic Lead > > > > x86 Architecture Team > > > > Games - Developer > > > > Gentoo Linux > > > << signature.asc >> > > > > > > > > > -- > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Check out the latest SMS services @ http://www.linuxmail.org > > > This allows you to send and receive SMS through your mailbox. > > > > > > Powered by Outblaze > > > > > > -- > > > gentoo-installer@gentoo.org mailing list > > > > > > > > > Truly great madness can not be achieved without significant intelligence. -- Henrik Tikkanen Stephen Partington __________________________________ Yahoo! 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