From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1ESfSZ-0006Vx-9D for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Thu, 20 Oct 2005 18:48:15 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.5/8.13.5) with SMTP id j9KIjBEG021925; Thu, 20 Oct 2005 18:45:11 GMT Received: from smtp04.gnvlscdb.sys.nuvox.net (smtp.nuvox.net [64.89.70.9]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id j9KIj9rD020684 for ; Thu, 20 Oct 2005 18:45:10 GMT Received: from cgianelloni.nuvox.net (216.215.202.4.nw.nuvox.net [216.215.202.4]) by smtp04.gnvlscdb.sys.nuvox.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j9KIliW2008873 for ; Thu, 20 Oct 2005 14:47:44 -0400 Received: by cgianelloni.nuvox.net (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Thu, 20 Oct 2005 14:47:37 -0400 Subject: Re: [gentoo-installer] Gentoo installer vs current installation method, what about later? From: Chris Gianelloni To: gentoo-installer@lists.gentoo.org In-Reply-To: <20051020181754.BB252203FE@ws5-1.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20051020181754.BB252203FE@ws5-1.us4.outblaze.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-L7NEznq/akpISvjbRdvO" Organization: Gentoo Linux Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 14:47:36 -0400 Message-Id: <1129834056.11559.12.camel@cgianelloni.nuvox.net> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-installer@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-installer@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.4.1 X-Archives-Salt: 273b13b7-82c7-44cc-aa72-fedf0e77879b X-Archives-Hash: 8054ceb01636e224b41ff9428150c40c --=-L7NEznq/akpISvjbRdvO Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, 2005-10-21 at 02:17 +0800, John Walsh wrote: > But I like the non-X liveCD (not the minimal, the Universal), everybody h= as X > livecd's and the simplicity and power of the current livecd is unmatched. > Is there no way of keeping the same Universal LiveCD as is now for those = users that > prefer it? I mean, when a system is down, there is no need to start X and= have open-office and=20 > x-chat, xine, mplayer, xmms, etc on the CD, but as many tools as possible= , like it is now to get it back up. Were you paying attention at all? I said that it will be capable of booting directly to a terminal. Even the current LiveCD can do that. Simply boot with "nox" and you're at the terminal. At any rate, no, there is no way we are keeping the Universal CD when we will have another CD that is approximately the same size on the mirrors and is a superset of its functionality. I don't like wasting my time implementing something with no real use. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Chris Gianelloni" > To: gentoo-installer@lists.gentoo.org > Subject: Re: [gentoo-installer] Gentoo installer vs current installation = method, what about later? > Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 14:53:48 -0400 >=20 > >=20 > > On Thu, 2005-10-20 at 01:59 +0800, John Walsh wrote: > > > Hello all, > > > > > > I just need some enlightenment, is the gentoo installer going to=20 > > > REPLACE the current methode or is it going to > > > be an aleternative, like choosing in between expert/manual (the=20 > > > current method) and easy (the gentoo installer). > > > The reason I ask this is because I like the current install=20 > > > method via the livecd and I use that livecd A LOT when > > > I have to solve some problems on a linux (and even window$)=20 > > > partition. I wouldn't not want to be able to still use the livecd=20 > > > as it is currently usable, because I think it is the best livecd=20 > > > out there. If it is going to completely > > > replace the current livecd installation method then is there=20 > > > going to someone at Gentoo to keep up the livecd > > > tradition? > >=20 > > The concept I have in place for future releases is pretty simple. Ther= e > > will be 2 CD images per architecture. > >=20 > > 1. Minimal InstallCD > > 2. Installer LiveCD > >=20 > > There will also be stages 1, 2, and 3 on the mirrors. You will still b= e > > able to do a manual installation, but it will be highly discouraged, > > simply due to possible problems. > >=20 > > At any rate, when I say LiveCD, I mean the full-blown CD with X on it. > > This CD will be the replacement for both the Universal InstallCD and th= e > > PackageCD. It will also be usable as a RescueCD, so essentially, it is > > filling three roles. > >=20 > > The Minimal InstallCD will be reduced even further to be usable for > > installation only. Any non-installation-related packages will be > > removed from the CD. I've been considering even removing some of the > > lesser-used drivers that typically cause problems and leaving them for > > the full LiveCD only. > >=20 > > You can, of course, still perform a manual installation using the > > LiveCD. You aren't forced to use the Installer. I, personally, only > > use the LiveCD, as I like having a complete environment available when > > doing troubleshooting, or even just being able to get on gaim while I'm > > waiting for my install to complete. > >=20 > > -- > > Chris Gianelloni > > Release Engineering - Strategic Lead > > x86 Architecture Team > > Games - Developer > > Gentoo Linux > << signature.asc >> >=20 >=20 > --=20 > _______________________________________________ > Check out the latest SMS services @ http://www.linuxmail.org > This allows you to send and receive SMS through your mailbox. >=20 > Powered by Outblaze >=20 --=20 Chris Gianelloni Release Engineering - Strategic Lead x86 Architecture Team Games - Developer Gentoo Linux --=-L7NEznq/akpISvjbRdvO Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQBDV+ZHkT4lNIS36YERApw8AJ0bqDDqEWwwKXrgc+blhI5I0t13QgCeIRCG N3oaeYssOzaJut/kc5/yUQg= =pl+E -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-L7NEznq/akpISvjbRdvO-- -- gentoo-installer@gentoo.org mailing list