On Fri, 2005-10-21 at 02:17 +0800, John Walsh wrote:
> But I like the non-X liveCD (not the minimal, the Universal), everybody has X
> livecd's and the simplicity and power of the current livecd is unmatched.
> Is there no way of keeping the same Universal LiveCD as is now for those users that
> prefer it? I mean, when a system is down, there is no need to start X and have open-office and 
> x-chat, xine, mplayer, xmms, etc on the CD, but as many tools as possible, like it is now to get it back up.

Were you paying attention at all?  I said that it will be capable of
booting directly to a terminal.  Even the current LiveCD can do that.
Simply boot with "nox" and you're at the terminal.

At any rate, no, there is no way we are keeping the Universal CD when we
will have another CD that is approximately the same size on the mirrors
and is a superset of its functionality.  I don't like wasting my time
implementing something with no real use.

> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Chris Gianelloni" <wolf31o2@gentoo.org>
> To: gentoo-installer@lists.gentoo.org
> Subject: Re: [gentoo-installer] Gentoo installer vs current installation	method, what about later?
> Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 14:53:48 -0400
> 
> > 
> > On Thu, 2005-10-20 at 01:59 +0800, John Walsh wrote:
> > > Hello all,
> > >
> > > I just need some enlightenment, is the gentoo installer going to 
> > > REPLACE the current methode or is it going to
> > > be an aleternative, like choosing in between expert/manual (the 
> > > current method) and easy (the gentoo installer).
> > > The reason I ask this is because I like the current install 
> > > method via the livecd and I use that livecd A LOT when
> > > I have to solve some problems on a linux (and even window$) 
> > > partition. I wouldn't not want to be able to still use the livecd 
> > > as it is currently usable, because I think it is the best livecd 
> > > out there. If it is going to completely
> > > replace the current livecd installation method then is there 
> > > going to someone at Gentoo to keep up the livecd
> > > tradition?
> > 
> > The concept I have in place for future releases is pretty simple.  There
> > will be 2 CD images per architecture.
> > 
> > 1.  Minimal InstallCD
> > 2.  Installer LiveCD
> > 
> > There will also be stages 1, 2, and 3 on the mirrors.  You will still be
> > able to do a manual installation, but it will be highly discouraged,
> > simply due to possible problems.
> > 
> > At any rate, when I say LiveCD, I mean the full-blown CD with X on it.
> > This CD will be the replacement for both the Universal InstallCD and the
> > PackageCD.  It will also be usable as a RescueCD, so essentially, it is
> > filling three roles.
> > 
> > The Minimal InstallCD will be reduced even further to be usable for
> > installation only.  Any non-installation-related packages will be
> > removed from the CD.  I've been considering even removing some of the
> > lesser-used drivers that typically cause problems and leaving them for
> > the full LiveCD only.
> > 
> > You can, of course, still perform a manual installation using the
> > LiveCD.  You aren't forced to use the Installer.  I, personally, only
> > use the LiveCD, as I like having a complete environment available when
> > doing troubleshooting, or even just being able to get on gaim while I'm
> > waiting for my install to complete.
> > 
> > --
> > Chris Gianelloni
> > Release Engineering - Strategic Lead
> > x86 Architecture Team
> > Games - Developer
> > Gentoo Linux
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