From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from <gentoo-hardened+bounces-2891-garchives=archives.gentoo.org@lists.gentoo.org>) id 1NucWj-0004nZ-Ez for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Thu, 25 Mar 2010 02:10:29 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 112ABE0B39 for <garchives@archives.gentoo.org>; Thu, 25 Mar 2010 02:02:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from snt0-omc1-s34.snt0.hotmail.com (snt0-omc1-s34.snt0.hotmail.com [65.55.90.45]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A5E1E095E for <gentoo-hardened@lists.gentoo.org>; Thu, 25 Mar 2010 01:16:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from SNT123-W5 ([65.55.90.8]) by snt0-omc1-s34.snt0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Wed, 24 Mar 2010 18:16:45 -0700 Message-ID: <SNT123-W5AF8FBD07D2B54C4E1D56B3240@phx.gbl> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_42ef7ed1-9e8d-46e5-a680-d01931056c19_" X-Originating-IP: [64.101.71.11] From: Brian Davis <bridavis@live.com> To: <gentoo-hardened@lists.gentoo.org> CC: <mansourmoufid@gmail.com> Subject: RE: [gentoo-hardened] Regarding hardened-sources Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 21:16:45 -0400 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <201003242054.29879.casta@xwing.info> References: <44a1f4d21003241247h17a8da37h8ef98144338549fe@mail.gmail.com>,<201003242054.29879.casta@xwing.info> Precedence: bulk List-Post: <mailto:gentoo-hardened@lists.gentoo.org> List-Help: <mailto:gentoo-hardened+help@lists.gentoo.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:gentoo-hardened+unsubscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:gentoo-hardened+subscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail <gentoo-hardened.gentoo.org> X-BeenThere: gentoo-hardened@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-hardened@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Mar 2010 01:16:45.0547 (UTC) FILETIME=[D5D5F3B0:01CACBB8] X-Archives-Salt: 8f010adc-40e5-4287-b490-a1a666df97e6 X-Archives-Hash: 7dc36aa8b694624bc4aa855dd76a0c93 --_42ef7ed1-9e8d-46e5-a680-d01931056c19_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I think the question still stands=2C however=2C as to why the "main-line" h= ardened-sources are not being updated. > From: casta@xwing.info > To: gentoo-hardened@lists.gentoo.org > Subject: Re: [gentoo-hardened] Regarding hardened-sources > Date: Wed=2C 24 Mar 2010 20:54:29 +0100 > CC: mansourmoufid@gmail.com >=20 > Le Mercredi 24 Mars 2010 20:47:08=2C Mansour Moufid a =E9crit : > > Hello=2C > >=20 > > The latest stable release of grsecurity is for 2.6.32 kernels. > > Gentoo's hardened-sources have been stuck at 2.6.28-r9 for a while > > now. Is there any particular reason for this? > >=20 > > Stability is important=2C but it's also fact that many (most?) > > vulnerabilities in Linux are fixed silently as non-security updates in > > the latest kernels. The grsecurity/PaX team has been tracking and > > backporting these sorts of stealth vulnerability fixes. Therefore=2C > > would it not make more sense for Gentoo Hardened to follow their lead? > > Especially considering they will be supporting 2.6.32 on a long term > > basis[1]. > >=20 > > Thanks for your time. > >=20 > > [1] <http://grsecurity.net/news.php#stablechosen> >=20 > Try hardened-development overlay (available via layman) > http://git.overlays.gentoo.org/gitweb/?p=3Dproj/hardened-dev.git=3Ba=3Dsu= mmary >=20 > It provides a recent kernel and some toolchain patches=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > Guillaume Castagnino > casta@xwing.info / guillaume@castagnino.org >=20 =20 _________________________________________________________________ The New Busy is not the old busy. Search=2C chat and e-mail from your inbox= . http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=3DPID27925::T:WLMTAGL:O= N:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:032010_3= --_42ef7ed1-9e8d-46e5-a680-d01931056c19_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <html> <head> <style><!-- .hmmessage P { margin:0px=3B padding:0px } body.hmmessage { font-size: 10pt=3B font-family:Verdana } --></style> </head> <body class=3D'hmmessage'> I think the question still stands=2C however=2C as to why the "main-line" h= ardened-sources are not being updated.<br><br>>=3B From: casta@xwing.info= <br>>=3B To: gentoo-hardened@lists.gentoo.org<br>>=3B Subject: Re: [gen= too-hardened] Regarding hardened-sources<br>>=3B Date: Wed=2C 24 Mar 2010= 20:54:29 +0100<br>>=3B CC: mansourmoufid@gmail.com<br>>=3B <br>>=3B = Le Mercredi 24 Mars 2010 20:47:08=2C Mansour Moufid a =E9crit :<br>>=3B &= gt=3B Hello=2C<br>>=3B >=3B <br>>=3B >=3B The latest stable release= of grsecurity is for 2.6.32 kernels.<br>>=3B >=3B Gentoo's hardened-so= urces have been stuck at 2.6.28-r9 for a while<br>>=3B >=3B now. Is the= re any particular reason for this?<br>>=3B >=3B <br>>=3B >=3B Stabi= lity is important=2C but it's also fact that many (most?)<br>>=3B >=3B = vulnerabilities in Linux are fixed silently as non-security updates in<br>&= gt=3B >=3B the latest kernels. The grsecurity/PaX team has been tracking = and<br>>=3B >=3B backporting these sorts of stealth vulnerability fixes= . Therefore=2C<br>>=3B >=3B would it not make more sense for Gentoo Har= dened to follow their lead?<br>>=3B >=3B Especially considering they wi= ll be supporting 2.6.32 on a long term<br>>=3B >=3B basis[1].<br>>=3B= >=3B <br>>=3B >=3B Thanks for your time.<br>>=3B >=3B <br>>=3B= >=3B [1] <=3Bhttp://grsecurity.net/news.php#stablechosen>=3B<br>>= =3B <br>>=3B Try hardened-development overlay (available via layman)<br>&= gt=3B http://git.overlays.gentoo.org/gitweb/?p=3Dproj/hardened-dev.git=3Ba= =3Dsummary<br>>=3B <br>>=3B It provides a recent kernel and some toolch= ain patches <br>>=3B <br>>=3B <br>>=3B <br>>=3B -- <br>>=3B Guill= aume Castagnino<br>>=3B casta@xwing.info / guillaume@castagnino.org<b= r>>=3B <br> <br /><hr />The New Busy is not the old busy. Sear= ch=2C chat and e-mail from your inbox. <a href=3D'http://www.windowslive.co= m/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=3DPID27925::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:032010_= 3' target=3D'_new'>Get started.</a></body> </html>= --_42ef7ed1-9e8d-46e5-a680-d01931056c19_--