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Subject: RE: [gentoo-hardened] Regarding hardened-sources
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I think the question still stands=2C however=2C as to why the "main-line" h=
ardened-sources are not being updated.

> From: casta@xwing.info
> To: gentoo-hardened@lists.gentoo.org
> Subject: Re: [gentoo-hardened] Regarding hardened-sources
> Date: Wed=2C 24 Mar 2010 20:54:29 +0100
> CC: mansourmoufid@gmail.com
>=20
> Le Mercredi 24 Mars 2010 20:47:08=2C Mansour Moufid a =E9crit :
> > Hello=2C
> >=20
> > The latest stable release of grsecurity is for 2.6.32 kernels.
> > Gentoo's hardened-sources have been stuck at 2.6.28-r9 for a while
> > now. Is there any particular reason for this?
> >=20
> > Stability is important=2C but it's also fact that many (most?)
> > vulnerabilities in Linux are fixed silently as non-security updates in
> > the latest kernels. The grsecurity/PaX team has been tracking and
> > backporting these sorts of stealth vulnerability fixes. Therefore=2C
> > would it not make more sense for Gentoo Hardened to follow their lead?
> > Especially considering they will be supporting 2.6.32 on a long term
> > basis[1].
> >=20
> > Thanks for your time.
> >=20
> > [1] <http://grsecurity.net/news.php#stablechosen>
>=20
> Try hardened-development overlay (available via layman)
> http://git.overlays.gentoo.org/gitweb/?p=3Dproj/hardened-dev.git=3Ba=3Dsu=
mmary
>=20
> It provides a recent kernel and some toolchain patches=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
> --=20
> Guillaume Castagnino
>     casta@xwing.info / guillaume@castagnino.org
>=20
 		 	   		 =20
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I think the question still stands=2C however=2C as to why the "main-line" h=
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<br>&gt=3B To: gentoo-hardened@lists.gentoo.org<br>&gt=3B Subject: Re: [gen=
too-hardened] Regarding hardened-sources<br>&gt=3B Date: Wed=2C 24 Mar 2010=
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Le Mercredi 24 Mars 2010 20:47:08=2C Mansour Moufid a =E9crit :<br>&gt=3B &=
gt=3B Hello=2C<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B <br>&gt=3B &gt=3B The latest stable release=
 of grsecurity is for 2.6.32 kernels.<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B Gentoo's hardened-so=
urces have been stuck at 2.6.28-r9 for a while<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B now. Is the=
re any particular reason for this?<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B <br>&gt=3B &gt=3B Stabi=
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vulnerabilities in Linux are fixed silently as non-security updates in<br>&=
gt=3B &gt=3B the latest kernels. The grsecurity/PaX team has been tracking =
and<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B backporting these sorts of stealth vulnerability fixes=
. Therefore=2C<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B would it not make more sense for Gentoo Har=
dened to follow their lead?<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B Especially considering they wi=
ll be supporting 2.6.32 on a long term<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B basis[1].<br>&gt=3B=
 &gt=3B <br>&gt=3B &gt=3B Thanks for your time.<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B <br>&gt=3B=
 &gt=3B [1] &lt=3Bhttp://grsecurity.net/news.php#stablechosen&gt=3B<br>&gt=
=3B <br>&gt=3B Try hardened-development overlay (available via layman)<br>&=
gt=3B http://git.overlays.gentoo.org/gitweb/?p=3Dproj/hardened-dev.git=3Ba=
=3Dsummary<br>&gt=3B <br>&gt=3B It provides a recent kernel and some toolch=
ain patches <br>&gt=3B <br>&gt=3B <br>&gt=3B <br>&gt=3B -- <br>&gt=3B Guill=
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