From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([69.77.167.62] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from <gentoo-hardened+bounces-2123-garchives=archives.gentoo.org@lists.gentoo.org>) id 1KVvkq-0000Rq-3T for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 22:02:12 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EAF25E03AC; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 22:02:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from rv-out-0708.google.com (rv-out-0708.google.com [209.85.198.242]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAD49E03AC for <gentoo-hardened@lists.gentoo.org>; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 22:02:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: by rv-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id b17so569694rvf.46 for <gentoo-hardened@lists.gentoo.org>; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 15:02:09 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=HKbdvi49AFD0tdx1JF72vpTez5C9EtmGx1bEReJRkQs=; b=yB764h3csr5ERkkf7GeLyu7wt3JBGW7sHHKdx/KITFOA3qb7GBEjeC/QHdAm13YFtb 7XvElPUqKxWUIdo9xocEuKUHt5UrCfXdIH1eXoh6/tYoC0rpKSSfgVAH9m+/vi/oASCO 0naXfsH3WbgImUDD+kM+A0BirKplapIHfnhho= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=MNewtXbD15Xx1FuPlbYAwXtjIUrnnWo1GAdMsU5isUIejuS6x3FYXlWj002KoxZNQo ppfbyd9qjLx8oXdJ95ONrt6AsXx8lDmGEvpUqfUH5dreXESJL1s5DE1sweveR/aYMUl4 hPVKp8IYW0lnrguxvMDiUaplp/NQD4C/yzzns= Received: by 10.141.5.17 with SMTP id h17mr348677rvi.8.1219269729884; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 15:02:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.140.158.10 with HTTP; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 15:02:09 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4255c2570808201502u1eeff808y4f8b40c855774cdb@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 16:02:09 -0600 From: RB <aoz.syn@gmail.com> To: gentoo-hardened@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-hardened] Updates: a way too simplified security question I am asking anyway In-Reply-To: <200808202353.50243.janklodvan@gmail.com> Precedence: bulk List-Post: <mailto:gentoo-hardened@lists.gentoo.org> List-Help: <mailto:gentoo-hardened+help@lists.gentoo.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:gentoo-hardened+unsubscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:gentoo-hardened+subscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail <gentoo-hardened.gentoo.org> X-BeenThere: gentoo-hardened@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-hardened@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: inline References: <1217603370.1820.242.camel@liasis.inforead.com> <200808202114.57420.janklodvan@gmail.com> <4255c2570808201231k360aec7cs6ef19206a62dd095@mail.gmail.com> <200808202353.50243.janklodvan@gmail.com> X-Archives-Salt: 28fb4ed5-495f-4e0f-9eeb-a6c01eaecb22 X-Archives-Hash: baba958caa419f5680806eb4e1b51ad1 PiBDb21wbGV4aXR5IG1hdHRlciBhZ2Fpbi4uLiBUaGVvcmV0aWNhbGx5Li4gaXMgaXQgcG9zc2li bGUgdG8gZW51bWVyYXRlIGFsbCB0aGUKPiBwb3NzaWJsZSBzY2VuYXJpb3MgZm9yIGEgZmlsZSBz ZXJ2ZXI/IChvciwgSSBtaWdodCBoYXZlIHdyb3RlIC0gYWxsIG9mIGl0cwo+IHN0YXRlcykgT2gs IHN1cmUsIGl0IGhhcyBmaW5pdGUgYW1vdW50IG9mIG1lbW9yeSA6KQoKVGhvc2UgZmlybWx5IG9u IHRoZSAiVGhyZWF0IG1vZGVsaW5nIiBzaWRlIG9mIHRoZSBjYW1wIHNheSB5b3UgY2FuLgpUaGUg a2V5IGlzIGxpbWl0aW5nIHlvdXIgc3lzdGVtJ3Mgc2NvcGUgYW5kIHVzaW5nIGEgcG9zaXRpdmUK KGRlZmF1bHQtZGVueSkgc2VjdXJpdHkgbW9kZWwuICBJdCdzIHJlc291cmNlLWludGVuc2l2ZSBm b3IgdGhlCmltcGxlbWVudGVyIG9uIHRoZSBmcm9udCBlbmQgYW5kIGluZmxleGlibGUsIGJ1dCBj YW4gd29yayBmb3Igc29tZQpzY2VuYXJpb3MuCgo+IEkgc3RhcnRlZCB0aGlzIGFzIGEgImZsYW1l IiwgYnV0IHRoZSByZXN0IG1pZ2h0IGdvIG91dCBvZiBzY29wZSBvZiB0aGlzIGxpc3QKPiBhbmQg c2VuZCBtZSB0byB0aGVvcmV0aWNhbCBjb21wdXRlciBzY2llbmNlLgoKSW4gc3BpdGUgb2YgbXkg Q1MgZGVncmVlIChhbmQgcHJvYmFibGUgcHVyc3VpdCBvZiBhbiBhZHZhbmNlZCBkZWdyZWUpLApJ IGRvbid0IGVzdGVlbSBhY2FkZW1pYSB2ZXJ5IGhpZ2hseS4gIFRoZW9yeSBtYWtlcyBmb3IgcHJl dHR5IGdyYXBocwpvbiB0aGVzaXMgcGFwZXJzLCBidXQgcmVhbC13b3JsZCBhcHBsaWNhdGlvbiBp cyB0aGUgb25seSB3YXkgYW55dGhpbmcKd2lsbCBhY3R1YWxseSBiZSBzb2x2ZWQuCgo+IEphdmll ciBNYXJ0w61uZXo6Cj4gImNvbnRyb2wgdGhlIGV4ZWN1dGlvbiBvZiBwZXJsIGFuIHB5dGhvbiAo YmV0d2Vlbgo+IG90aGVycykgc2NyaXB0cyAoaW4gdGhlIHdheSBvZiBwZXJsIGJsYWJsYWJsYS5w bCwgd2hpY2ggZG9lcyBub3QgbmVlZAo+IGV4ZWN1dGlvbiByaWdodHMpLiBZb3UgdW5kZXIgdGhp cyB0d28gZnJhbWV3b3JrcyB5b3UgY2FuIGRvIGl0LiBDYW4KPiB5b3UgZG8gdGhpcyB1bmRlciBP cGVuQlNEIDspIgo+Cj4gVGhhbmtzLCBqdXN0IHlvdSBwdXQgbWUgb24gbXkgd2F5LCBpZiBJIHJl YWxseSBuZWVkIGEgcmVsaWFibGUgc3lzdGVtLCB0aGF0IEkKPiBjYW4gZ2V0IE5PVyBBTkQgSEVS RSA6KQoKWWVzIC0gZ29vZCwgYWN0aW9uYWJsZSBzdWdnZXN0aW9ucy4gIE9mIGNvdXJzZSwgdGhl IHRocmVhdCBtb2RlbGluZwpjcmV3IG1ha2VzIGEgZ29vZCBhcmd1bWVudCB0aGF0IGFueXRoaW5n IGJleW9uZCBhIE1BQyAoc2VsaW51eCwgUlNCQUMsCmV0Yy4pIGlzIHdhc3RlZCBlZmZvcnQuICBU aGF0LCBvZiBjb3Vyc2UsIGFzc3VtZXMgeW91J3ZlIHBlcmZlY3RseQpzdWNjZWVkZWQgaW4gbGVh c3QtcHJpdmlsZWdlLgo=