From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([69.77.167.62] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1L568V-0008DS-F2 for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Tue, 25 Nov 2008 22:11:59 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 54730E038D; Tue, 25 Nov 2008 22:11:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from atoth.sote.hu (atoth.sote.hu [195.111.75.211]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BF05E038D for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2008 22:11:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from atoth.sote.hu (apache@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by atoth.sote.hu (8.14.2/8.14.2/atoth@atoth.sote.hu) with ESMTP id mAPMBogr019933 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2008 23:11:52 +0100 Received: from 62.165.243.164 (SquirrelMail authenticated user atoth) by atoth.sote.hu with HTTP; Tue, 25 Nov 2008 23:11:52 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <3ad6837a38de4c93c4bd93880a71d5db.squirrel@atoth.sote.hu> In-Reply-To: <200811252158.06957.janklodvan@gmail.com> References: <200811251700.45540.janklodvan@gmail.com> <4255c2570811251158n28f3274ch34e87a1a3f1eacb6@mail.gmail.com> <200811252158.06957.janklodvan@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2008 23:11:52 +0100 (CET) Subject: Re: [gentoo-hardened] hardened workstation - is that worth it? From: atoth@atoth.sote.hu To: gentoo-hardened@lists.gentoo.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.16 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-hardened@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-hardened@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=utf-8 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.2 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL autolearn=disabled version=3.2.1-gr1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on atoth.sote.hu X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.94.1, clamav-milter version 0.94.1 on atoth X-Virus-Status: Clean X-List-Milter: non-list mail Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: cc1a2aee-c859-4d45-9a92-1003841cce74 X-Archives-Hash: 50aed7c27ca02b21cc7ef055d45aacac Dear Jan, On Ked, November 25, 2008 22:58, Jan Klod wrote: > As a conclusion of what I have read this far I can state: hardened OS i= s > useless for non-server. Would that be too much? Well, I think, in a "bl= ack IMHO: not useless. Perfect security is non-existent. But there can be som= e systems that are more secure compared to others. One should seek after th= e highest achievable security in a particular case. Have you heard the joke about the two monks wandering in the desert? No? Suddenly a lion appears in the distance. One of the monks stops and start= s to put on a pair of running shoes. The other starts arguing: "Let's get moving! We should start running. How fool you are! Do you thin= k you are faster than the lion if you wear those shoes?" The other replies: "I don't have to be faster than the lion. I just have to be faster than you..." Regards, Dw.