Re: [gentoo-hardened] 2 lists!

[Alex Efros <powerman@powerman.asdfGroup.com>]

Hi!

On Sat, May 06, 2006 at 09:35:59PM +0200, Jan V wrote:
>    The gentoo-hardened mailing list is not able to support users. Here
>    mostly physicians and math-specialists are posting, known as devs. We
>    need a mailing list, where people without your capabilities but that
>    still want to use hardened environments can share their thoughts and
>    mostly *get help*.
>    So, please create a hardened-dev list and a hardened-users list. And
>    please let the hardened-users list become a massive multiplayer "how
>    do I do a policy for my pussy" list. This is needed!

This isn't "maillist" who unable to support users - it's subscribers of
this maillist unable to support users. This list has very low traffic,
and splitting it into two maillists make then even less traffic each.

Usual way to kick :) "physicians and math-specialists" into hardened-dev
is increase traffic in this maillist with huge amount of user-support
messages... Try to ask your "simple" questions and look is somebody will
answer. If nobody will answer - then why you think these people WILL
answer if maillist will be renamed to hardened-users? :)

Anyway, I don't share your view both about "is not able to support users"
and "physicians and math-specialists". Everything written above is just
attempt to reply from your point of view.

There some professional developers experienced in security in this maillist...
and they are only people who __able__ to answer to most of questions 
(so kick'ing them into different maillist isn't good idea for users anyway). :)
And they usually answer to all questions, so users usually can *get help*
(of course, if you wanna use Hardened then you must first read everything
about it on gentoo website and gentoo wiki... sorry, but this is only way to
use Linux - read docs, then read them again).

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			WBR, Alex.
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