From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1N645d-0003S7-HF for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Thu, 05 Nov 2009 15:17:33 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 83028E0A8C; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 15:17:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-qy0-f191.google.com (mail-qy0-f191.google.com [209.85.221.191]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BD6EE0A8C for ; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 15:17:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qyk29 with SMTP id 29so33362qyk.32 for ; Thu, 05 Nov 2009 07:17:32 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=xfW+cspCGqnmTr/Zg1QGd+L7mYYZ8kkFLI/OBYTWzSk=; b=UZxF1fzs8xSziGDmAbxSGbaDlOSFthJl3UXjNGr461/MGx7vyAHzsIbasEzOexkwfV DhGtz+lTRvq4bkOIFgqKLmxdPPsK0YQ4j4lr/oBrVNLqspdwyY3+bGSgUswvhG+HxfLe XARiNpCRvDVGUi9YO/E4wEwT3CAualh/cseec= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=SGvctxDI9MltxS0sdPgTLj5d9Jqo8wFObTr/L6NJAtq5SRwQDXfUHuCxvtMRRDOZKp P7SBywJzSWtF1vjSkZ0pp9Ldrsec0wXt2y2noI7OZiiFyYpfEUmXpKJKnobxL7vA+rH2 uYdaysubGdIbH2+QXHsRcbWN0yGqnQvfZ4s1M= Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-embedded@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-embedded@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.139.209 with SMTP id u17mr278123hbu.79.1257434251156; Thu, 05 Nov 2009 07:17:31 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4AF2E16D.7010503@tampabay.rr.com> References: <4AEB3FE2.7040203@tampabay.rr.com> <3ea34a000911050554u7ef47a78o70097bc9bad4ab17@mail.gmail.com> <4AF2E16D.7010503@tampabay.rr.com> Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 16:17:31 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-embedded] Android phones From: Raffaele Recalcati To: gentoo-embedded@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Archives-Salt: 8fe8304d-6710-412e-b039-72be152338d8 X-Archives-Hash: e83847305a626a6fdfd55c43b238418d remind that the kernel has inside android patches, not, even if your gentoo is chrooted, it could have some pb anyway 2009/11/5 wireless : > Christopher Friedt wrote: >> On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 8:34 PM, wireless wrote: >>> Can the gentoo embedded, openmoko, or any other >>> embedded linux stack run on the (verizon) Android >>> (verizon droid) phone? >> >> yes. >> >> my suggestions would be to >> >> 1) cross-compile busybox statically for armv5tel >> 2) push the busybox binary (and symlinks) to the device using adb >> 3) download a gentoo stage3 filesystem for armv5tel >> 4) extract the filesystem to a suitable memory card >> 5) log in to the device using 'adb shell' >> 6) execute '/bin/ash' (the busybox shell) >> 7) mount proc sys dev -o bind to your memory card, where the gentoo >> root is installed >> 8) chroot to the gentoo root filesystem >> >> If you do that, you'll have android and gentoo 'running' on the device >> at the same time. I'm not sure how easy it is to do all of that on a >> Motorola Droid, and you might need to make some software modifications >> to start the adb (android debug bridge) service on the device. >> >> You can of course do the same with an OpenMoko filesystem image >> instead of a Gentoo filesystem image. Unfortunately, you won't be able >> to use the framebuffer while Android is using it (AFAIK). >> > > Nice to know. > >>> Isn't the Android(2.0) phone just somebody's Linux >>> stack? If so, is it an open/hackable embedded >>> linux stack for an Arm? >> >> I would suggest that you ask Motorola to release the source code for >> their Droid Linux kernel. Aside from that, all of the available source >> and documentation for Android is at http://source.android.com . Note >> that most of the 'good' Android apps are not open source - they (e.g. >> Google, Motorola, HTC) can get away with that because the userland is >> made available under an Apache-2.0 license. > > I do not think I'll be leading the charge here. > Just looking for folks that I can follow on > putting eGentoo on a cell phone, with wifi and > compatible with Verizon. > >> If you really want to experiment, then try to modify the Droid boot >> loader so it will boot into your Gentoo root on /dev/mmcblk0p1 or >> something instead of /dev/mdtblockX (where Android resides). You'll >> probably want to check out mtd-utils to do that. Warning: You'll most >> likely void your warranty by doing so, and you might end up with a >> bricked device. > > I do not think the DROID phone is what I want, > after looking more closely... However, I am wedded > to Verizon, for a variety of reasons, so the cell > phone I choose should run Gentoo and work with > Verizon and WiFi. > >> IMHO - the best (current) device you can use for a hackable handheld >> is the Nokia N900 - I wish I had one myself. > > I do not see much about this phone on Verizon's > wireless plans..... I could consider T-mobile? > I'm not sure about how good the T-mobile coverage > is in Florida? > > > James > > >