[gentoo-embedded] gentoo installation on openmoko freerunner

[gentoo-embedded] gentoo installation on openmoko freerunner

[elmar bucher]

Dear gentoo-embedded list members,

I  try to get gentoo installed on the openmoko freerunner phone,
following the instruction at
http://gentoo.mindzoo.de/index.cgi/wiki/native-compiling .
(Last post on this prj page is about a year ago, but I still hoped to
get it running.)

I manged to:
+ fdisk the microSD card
+ format the root partition
+ format the swap partition
+ download the latest stage3 tarball and extract it on the root partition
+ download the latest portage tree and extract i to the root partition
+ set zoneinfo
+ set host name
+ uncomment  unnecessary terminal in /ect/fstab
+ set locale-gen in inittab
+ chroot to the system
+ update environment (source /etc/profile && env-update)
+ set root passwd
+ enable sshd on startup (rc-update add sshd default)
+ set up usb networking (http://gentoo.mindzoo.de/index.cgi/wiki/USB_Networking)
+ remove consolefont from boot runlevel

But now, by trying to installing layman (to choose a profile) I run
into troubles:
If I try to emerge layman on the chrooted environment the phone can
not get an working internet connection.
Am I supposed to have a working internet connection?
I tried ping from the chrooted environment:
 ping gentoo.org
 ping: unknown host gentoo.org

At the moment the phone have the latest version of shr installed.
I can start wi-fi over "Iliwi" in shr. according to the message on the
screen get wifi CONNECTED.
how ever, if i try to ping from the non chrooted environment I get this:
  ping gentoo.org
  ping: bad address 'gentoo.org'

The latest I tried: I plugged the microSD card into my desktop, where
I tied to chroot to the environment. Without success. (Which somehow
makes sense to me, since the kernel on the microSD card is not packed
for the desktop hardware. But I am not sure if I am right.)

So this two question remains:
Do I need internet access on the phone (over wifi or the simcard) to
be able to finish the gentoo installation?
How can I install layman, that i can choose a profiles for openmoko?

I'm grateful for any hints.
So long, Elmar


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Re: [gentoo-embedded] gentoo installation on openmoko freerunner

[Peter Volkov]

В Втр, 14/06/2011 в 11:05 +0300, elmar bucher пишет:
> At the moment the phone have the latest version of shr installed.
> I can start wi-fi over "Iliwi" in shr. according to the message on the
> screen get wifi CONNECTED.
> how ever, if i try to ping from the non chrooted environment I get this:
>   ping gentoo.org
>   ping: bad address 'gentoo.org'

Probably /etc/resolv.conf inside chroot does not have valid DNS servers.
Try to
cp /etc/resolv.conf /chroot/path/etc/ .

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Re: [gentoo-embedded] gentoo installation on openmoko freerunner

[elmar bucher]

Hi Peter,

Thank you as well for the fast reply.
I guess you have seen my longer answer to Andrej.
Your answer make me optimistic to use the DNS names server information
that works on my desktop in my phone.
lets see what happens...

So long, Elmar


On 14 June 2011 12:09, Peter Volkov <pva@gentoo.org> wrote:
> В Втр, 14/06/2011 в 11:05 +0300, elmar bucher пишет:
>> At the moment the phone have the latest version of shr installed.
>> I can start wi-fi over "Iliwi" in shr. according to the message on the
>> screen get wifi CONNECTED.
>> how ever, if i try to ping from the non chrooted environment I get this:
>>   ping gentoo.org
>>   ping: bad address 'gentoo.org'
>
> Probably /etc/resolv.conf inside chroot does not have valid DNS servers.
> Try to
> cp /etc/resolv.conf /chroot/path/etc/ .
>
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Re: [gentoo-embedded] gentoo installation on openmoko freerunner

[elmar bucher]

Hi Peter and Andrej,

It did not help. I get the same errors, using the reslov.conf file
from the desktop in the shr and gentoo environment on the phone.

Have a good night, all of you, Elmar


On 15 June 2011 00:41, elmar bucher <elmbeech@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Peter,
>
> Thank you as well for the fast reply.
> I guess you have seen my longer answer to Andrej.
> Your answer make me optimistic to use the DNS names server information
> that works on my desktop in my phone.
> lets see what happens...
>
> So long, Elmar
>
>
> On 14 June 2011 12:09, Peter Volkov <pva@gentoo.org> wrote:
>> В Втр, 14/06/2011 в 11:05 +0300, elmar bucher пишет:
>>> At the moment the phone have the latest version of shr installed.
>>> I can start wi-fi over "Iliwi" in shr. according to the message on the
>>> screen get wifi CONNECTED.
>>> how ever, if i try to ping from the non chrooted environment I get this:
>>>   ping gentoo.org
>>>   ping: bad address 'gentoo.org'
>>
>> Probably /etc/resolv.conf inside chroot does not have valid DNS servers.
>> Try to
>> cp /etc/resolv.conf /chroot/path/etc/ .
>>
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>>
>>
>>
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Re: [gentoo-embedded] gentoo installation on openmoko freerunner

[Andrej Gelenberg]

Hi,
to chroot on desktop, you need quemu-user
(http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/base/embedded/handbook/?part=1&chap=5).

Get your phone an ip address?
# ip addr

What is in /etc/resolve.conf? What say 'dig @8.8.8.8 gentoo.org'? What
say ping 8.8.8.8?

Regards,
Andrej Gelenberg


On 06/14/2011 10:05 AM, elmar bucher wrote:
> Dear gentoo-embedded list members,
> 
> I  try to get gentoo installed on the openmoko freerunner phone,
> following the instruction at
> http://gentoo.mindzoo.de/index.cgi/wiki/native-compiling .
> (Last post on this prj page is about a year ago, but I still hoped to
> get it running.)
> 
> I manged to:
> + fdisk the microSD card
> + format the root partition
> + format the swap partition
> + download the latest stage3 tarball and extract it on the root partition
> + download the latest portage tree and extract i to the root partition
> + set zoneinfo
> + set host name
> + uncomment  unnecessary terminal in /ect/fstab
> + set locale-gen in inittab
> + chroot to the system
> + update environment (source /etc/profile && env-update)
> + set root passwd
> + enable sshd on startup (rc-update add sshd default)
> + set up usb networking (http://gentoo.mindzoo.de/index.cgi/wiki/USB_Networking)
> + remove consolefont from boot runlevel
> 
> But now, by trying to installing layman (to choose a profile) I run
> into troubles:
> If I try to emerge layman on the chrooted environment the phone can
> not get an working internet connection.
> Am I supposed to have a working internet connection?
> I tried ping from the chrooted environment:
>  ping gentoo.org
>  ping: unknown host gentoo.org
> 
> At the moment the phone have the latest version of shr installed.
> I can start wi-fi over "Iliwi" in shr. according to the message on the
> screen get wifi CONNECTED.
> how ever, if i try to ping from the non chrooted environment I get this:
>   ping gentoo.org
>   ping: bad address 'gentoo.org'
> 
> The latest I tried: I plugged the microSD card into my desktop, where
> I tied to chroot to the environment. Without success. (Which somehow
> makes sense to me, since the kernel on the microSD card is not packed
> for the desktop hardware. But I am not sure if I am right.)
> 
> So this two question remains:
> Do I need internet access on the phone (over wifi or the simcard) to
> be able to finish the gentoo installation?
> How can I install layman, that i can choose a profiles for openmoko?
> 
> I'm grateful for any hints.
> So long, Elmar
> 
> 

Re: [gentoo-embedded] gentoo installation on openmoko freerunner

[elmar bucher]

Hi Andrej,

Thank you for the fast reply.

*** on SHR ***
> # ip addr
quite some output
1: lo  (loopback at inet 127.0.0.1/8)
2: usb0 [...] inet 192.168.0.202/24 brd 192.168.0.255
3: eth0 [...] inet 192.168.0.42/24 brd 192.168.0.255

> What is in /etc/resolve.conf?
cat /ect/reslov.conf
nameserver 208.67.222.222
nameserver 208.67.220.220

> What say 'dig @8.8.8.8 gentoo.org'?
/bin/sh: dig: not found
(so the is no dig command)

> What say ping 8.8.8.8?
PING 8.8.8.8 (8.8.8.8): 56 data bites
74 packets transmitted, 0 packets received ,100% packet lost

*** on the chrooted GENTOO environment ***
> # ip addr
sh: ip command not found

> What is in /etc/resolv.conf?
there is no resolv.conf file

> What say 'dig @8.8.8.8 gentoo.org'?
/bin/sh: dig: not found

> What say ping 8.8.8.8?
PING 8.8.8.8 (8.8.8.8): 56(84) bytes of data
From 192.168.0.202 icmp_seq=1 Destination Host Unreachable
[...]
5 packets transmitted, 0 received , +3 errors, 100% packet lost, time
4027ms pipe 3


*** if i do the same from my gNewSense desktop whit ethernet cable
connection ***
> # ip addr
elm@firebolt:~$ ip addr
1: lo: <LOOPBACK,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 16436 qdisc noqueue
    link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:00
    inet 127.0.0.1/8 scope host lo
    inet6 ::1/128 scope host
       valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
2: eth0: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast qlen 100
    link/ether 00:1d:72:92:d1:83 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
    inet 192.168.0.57/24 brd 192.168.0.255 scope global eth0
    inet6 fe80::21d:72ff:fe92:d183/64 scope link
       valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever

> What is in /etc/resolv.conf?
elm@firebolt:~$ cat /etc/resolv.conf
### BEGIN INFO
#
# Modified_by:  NetworkManager
# Process:      /usr/bin/NetworkManager
# Process_id:   4893
#
### END INFO

search Sauna


nameserver 192.168.0.1


> What say 'dig @8.8.8.8 gentoo.org'?
elm@firebolt:~$ dig @8.8.8.8 gentoo.org

; <<>> DiG 9.4.2-P2.1 <<>> @8.8.8.8 gentoo.org
; (1 server found)
;; global options:  printcmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 10108
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;gentoo.org.			IN	A

;; ANSWER SECTION:
gentoo.org.		3323	IN	A	89.16.167.134

;; Query time: 43 msec
;; SERVER: 8.8.8.8#53(8.8.8.8)
;; WHEN: Wed Jun 15 00:06:55 2011
;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 44

> What say ping 8.8.8.8?
elm@firebolt:~$ ping 8.8.8.8
PING 8.8.8.8 (8.8.8.8) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: icmp_seq=1 ttl=53 time=43.7 ms
64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: icmp_seq=2 ttl=53 time=44.1 ms
64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: icmp_seq=3 ttl=53 time=43.4 ms
64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: icmp_seq=4 ttl=53 time=44.0 ms
64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: icmp_seq=5 ttl=53 time=44.0 ms

--- 8.8.8.8 ping statistics ---
5 packets transmitted, 5 received, 0% packet loss, time 3998ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 43.466/43.871/44.118/0.306 ms


*** questions ****
should i copy the /etc/resolv.conf from the desktop to the phone? the
name server form the provider (saunalathi) should be the same.
8.8.8.8 is the google DNS server - is this the better choice?

I try to install qemu-user:
# USE=static emerege -b1 app-emualtion/qemu-user
[...]
!!! All ebuilds that could satisfy "app-emulation/qemu-user" have been masked.
[...]

I guess I have first to get the wi-fi proper working in SHR and then
try to install gentoo from scratch, then at the moment seems to be the
biggest problem, that I have no internet access to the phone at all.
What do you think?

So long, Elmar



/*****
On 14 June 2011 12:28, Andrej Gelenberg <andrej.gelenberg@udo.edu> wrote:

> Hi,
> to chroot on desktop, you need quemu-user
> (http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/base/embedded/handbook/?part=1&chap=5).
>
> Get your phone an ip address?
> # ip addr
>
> What is in /etc/resolve.conf? What say 'dig @8.8.8.8 gentoo.org'? What
> say ping 8.8.8.8?
>
> Regards,
> Andrej Gelenberg
>
>
> On 06/14/2011 10:05 AM, elmar bucher wrote:
>> Dear gentoo-embedded list members,
>>
>> I  try to get gentoo installed on the openmoko freerunner phone,
>> following the instruction at
>> http://gentoo.mindzoo.de/index.cgi/wiki/native-compiling .
>> (Last post on this prj page is about a year ago, but I still hoped to
>> get it running.)
>>
>> I manged to:
>> + fdisk the microSD card
>> + format the root partition
>> + format the swap partition
>> + download the latest stage3 tarball and extract it on the root partition
>> + download the latest portage tree and extract i to the root partition
>> + set zoneinfo
>> + set host name
>> + uncomment  unnecessary terminal in /ect/fstab
>> + set locale-gen in inittab
>> + chroot to the system
>> + update environment (source /etc/profile && env-update)
>> + set root passwd
>> + enable sshd on startup (rc-update add sshd default)
>> + set up usb networking (http://gentoo.mindzoo.de/index.cgi/wiki/USB_Networking)
>> + remove consolefont from boot runlevel
>>
>> But now, by trying to installing layman (to choose a profile) I run
>> into troubles:
>> If I try to emerge layman on the chrooted environment the phone can
>> not get an working internet connection.
>> Am I supposed to have a working internet connection?
>> I tried ping from the chrooted environment:
>>  ping gentoo.org
>>  ping: unknown host gentoo.org
>>
>> At the moment the phone have the latest version of shr installed.
>> I can start wi-fi over "Iliwi" in shr. according to the message on the
>> screen get wifi CONNECTED.
>> how ever, if i try to ping from the non chrooted environment I get this:
>>   ping gentoo.org
>>   ping: bad address 'gentoo.org'
>>
>> The latest I tried: I plugged the microSD card into my desktop, where
>> I tied to chroot to the environment. Without success. (Which somehow
>> makes sense to me, since the kernel on the microSD card is not packed
>> for the desktop hardware. But I am not sure if I am right.)
>>
>> So this two question remains:
>> Do I need internet access on the phone (over wifi or the simcard) to
>> be able to finish the gentoo installation?
>> How can I install layman, that i can choose a profiles for openmoko?
>>
>> I'm grateful for any hints.
>> So long, Elmar
>>
>>
>
>



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Re: [gentoo-embedded] gentoo installation on openmoko freerunner

[Andrej Gelenberg]

Hi,


> I guess I have first to get the wi-fi proper working in SHR and then
> try to install gentoo from scratch, then at the moment seems to be the
> biggest problem, that I have no internet access to the phone at all.
> What do you think?

yes, it is.

You can get list of urls which you need with 'emerge -pvf layman'. Place
downloaded files into /usr/portage/distfiles and install layman.

Regards,
Andrej Gelenberg

Re: [gentoo-embedded] gentoo installation on openmoko freerunner

[YoYo Siska]

On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 12:40:47AM +0300, elmar bucher wrote:
> Hi Andrej,
> 
> Thank you for the fast reply.
> 
> *** on SHR ***
> > # ip addr
> quite some output
> 1: lo  (loopback at inet 127.0.0.1/8)
> 2: usb0 [...] inet 192.168.0.202/24 brd 192.168.0.255
> 3: eth0 [...] inet 192.168.0.42/24 brd 192.168.0.255

hmm, your wifi uses the same subnet as the usbconnection.
What does

route -n

show? I don't know if linux networking/routing can correctly handle such
situation... To be on the safe side you can delete the address on the
usb interface
ip addr del 192.168.0.202/24 dev usb0

> 
> > What is in /etc/resolve.conf?
> cat /ect/reslov.conf
> nameserver 208.67.222.222
> nameserver 208.67.220.220
> 
> > What say 'dig @8.8.8.8 gentoo.org'?
> /bin/sh: dig: not found
> (so the is no dig command)
> 
> > What say ping 8.8.8.8?
> PING 8.8.8.8 (8.8.8.8): 56 data bites
> 74 packets transmitted, 0 packets received ,100% packet lost
> 
> *** on the chrooted GENTOO environment ***
> > # ip addr
> sh: ip command not found
> 
> > What is in /etc/resolv.conf?
> there is no resolv.conf file


copy (do not symlink) over the one from the normal system 
(standard procedure for chrooted installs ;)


> 
> > What say 'dig @8.8.8.8 gentoo.org'?
> /bin/sh: dig: not found
> 
> > What say ping 8.8.8.8?
> PING 8.8.8.8 (8.8.8.8): 56(84) bytes of data
> From 192.168.0.202 icmp_seq=1 Destination Host Unreachable
> [...]
> 5 packets transmitted, 0 received , +3 errors, 100% packet lost, time
> 4027ms pipe 3
> 
> 
> *** if i do the same from my gNewSense desktop whit ethernet cable
> connection ***
> > # ip addr
> elm@firebolt:~$ ip addr
> 1: lo: <LOOPBACK,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 16436 qdisc noqueue
>     link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:00
>     inet 127.0.0.1/8 scope host lo
>     inet6 ::1/128 scope host
>        valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
> 2: eth0: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast qlen 100
>     link/ether 00:1d:72:92:d1:83 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
>     inet 192.168.0.57/24 brd 192.168.0.255 scope global eth0
>     inet6 fe80::21d:72ff:fe92:d183/64 scope link
>        valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
> 
> > What is in /etc/resolv.conf?
> elm@firebolt:~$ cat /etc/resolv.conf
> ### BEGIN INFO
> #
> # Modified_by:  NetworkManager
> # Process:      /usr/bin/NetworkManager
> # Process_id:   4893
> #
> ### END INFO
> 
> search Sauna
> 
> 
> nameserver 192.168.0.1
> 
> 
> > What say 'dig @8.8.8.8 gentoo.org'?
> elm@firebolt:~$ dig @8.8.8.8 gentoo.org
> 
> ; <<>> DiG 9.4.2-P2.1 <<>> @8.8.8.8 gentoo.org
> ; (1 server found)
> ;; global options:  printcmd
> ;; Got answer:
> ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 10108
> ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0
> 
> ;; QUESTION SECTION:
> ;gentoo.org.			IN	A
> 
> ;; ANSWER SECTION:
> gentoo.org.		3323	IN	A	89.16.167.134
> 
> ;; Query time: 43 msec
> ;; SERVER: 8.8.8.8#53(8.8.8.8)
> ;; WHEN: Wed Jun 15 00:06:55 2011
> ;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 44
> 
> > What say ping 8.8.8.8?
> elm@firebolt:~$ ping 8.8.8.8
> PING 8.8.8.8 (8.8.8.8) 56(84) bytes of data.
> 64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: icmp_seq=1 ttl=53 time=43.7 ms
> 64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: icmp_seq=2 ttl=53 time=44.1 ms
> 64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: icmp_seq=3 ttl=53 time=43.4 ms
> 64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: icmp_seq=4 ttl=53 time=44.0 ms
> 64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: icmp_seq=5 ttl=53 time=44.0 ms
> 
> --- 8.8.8.8 ping statistics ---
> 5 packets transmitted, 5 received, 0% packet loss, time 3998ms
> rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 43.466/43.871/44.118/0.306 ms
> 
> 
> *** questions ****
> should i copy the /etc/resolv.conf from the desktop to the phone? the
> name server form the provider (saunalathi) should be the same.
> 8.8.8.8 is the google DNS server - is this the better choice?
> 
> I try to install qemu-user:
> # USE=static emerege -b1 app-emualtion/qemu-user
> [...]
> !!! All ebuilds that could satisfy "app-emulation/qemu-user" have been masked.
> [...]
> 
> I guess I have first to get the wi-fi proper working in SHR and then
> try to install gentoo from scratch, then at the moment seems to be the
> biggest problem, that I have no internet access to the phone at all.
> What do you think?
> 

Why not connect it through the usb? It might be slower than wifi, but
much more stable and predictable... It's  on wiki:
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/USB_Networking

but if you have working connection from desktop to neo, you just need to
run

iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -s 192.168.0.0/24 -j MASQUERADE
echo 1 >/proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward

on the desktop, shr should be by default set up for the usb connection,
unless you start up some wifi connection app which would mess it up,
however this is what it looks like here (on the moko, wifi turned off):

root@om-gta02 ~ # cat /etc/resolv.conf 
nameserver 208.67.222.222
nameserver 208.67.220.220

root@om-gta02 ~ # ip addr 
1: lo: <LOOPBACK,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 16436 qdisc noqueue state UNKNOWN 
    link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:00
    inet 127.0.0.1/8 scope host lo
    inet6 ::1/128 scope host 
       valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
2: usb0: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast state UP qlen 1000
    link/ether 00:1f:11:01:44:b3 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
    inet 192.168.0.202/24 brd 192.168.0.255 scope global usb0
    inet6 fe80::21f:11ff:fe01:44b3/64 scope link 
       valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever

root@om-gta02 ~ # route -n
Kernel IP routing table
Destination     Gateway         Genmask         Flags Metric Ref    Use Iface
192.168.0.0     0.0.0.0         255.255.255.0   U     0      0        0 usb0
0.0.0.0         192.168.0.200   0.0.0.0         UG    8      0        0 usb0


root@om-gta02 ~ # ping -c3 www.google.com
PING www.google.com (209.85.149.103): 56 data bytes
64 bytes from 209.85.149.103: seq=0 ttl=54 time=31.947 ms
64 bytes from 209.85.149.103: seq=1 ttl=54 time=34.760 ms
64 bytes from 209.85.149.103: seq=2 ttl=54 time=34.034 ms


yoyo

Re: [gentoo-embedded] gentoo installation on openmoko freerunner

[elmar bucher]

Hi Yoyo,

At least a step I cam further...

> Why not connect it through the usb? It might be slower than wifi, but
> much more stable and predictable... It's  on wiki:
> http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/USB_Networking

I followed the USB Networking instruction.
elm@firebolt:~$ sudo ip address add 192.168.0.200/24 dev eth1
elm@firebolt:~$ sudo ip link set dev eth1 up
elm@firebolt:~$ sudo route add -host 192.168.0.202 dev eth1

*** form the desktop  ping  and ssh to the phone works  YEAH!***
elm@firebolt:~$ ping 192.168.0.202
PING 192.168.0.202 (192.168.0.202) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from 192.168.0.202: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=1.15 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.0.202: icmp_seq=2 ttl=64 time=1.20 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.0.202: icmp_seq=3 ttl=64 time=1.26 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.0.202: icmp_seq=4 ttl=64 time=1.57 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.0.202: icmp_seq=5 ttl=64 time=1.62 ms

--- 192.168.0.202 ping statistics ---
5 packets transmitted, 5 received, 0% packet loss, time 3997ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 1.150/1.365/1.627/0.197 ms

elm@firebolt:~$ ssh root@192.168.0.202
root@192.168.0.202's password:
Last login: Tue Jan  4 12:33:47 2000 from 192.168.0.200
root@om-gta02 ~ #


*** form the phone ping  to the phone works too (even the time looks
freaking fast), but ssh to the desktop does not work, even I'm sure
the firewall is down ***
root@om-gta02 ~ # ping 192.168.0.200
PING 192.168.0.200 (192.168.0.200): 56 data bytes
64 bytes from 192.168.0.200: seq=0 ttl=64 time=0.000 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.0.200: seq=1 ttl=64 time=0.000 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.0.200: seq=2 ttl=64 time=0.000 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.0.200: seq=3 ttl=64 time=0.000 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.0.200: seq=4 ttl=64 time=0.000 ms
^C
--- 192.168.0.200 ping statistics ---
5 packets transmitted, 5 packets received, 0% packet loss
round-trip min/avg/max = 0.000/0.000/0.000 ms
root@om-gta02 ~ #

root@om-gta02 ~ # ssh elm@192.168.0.200
ssh: connect to host 192.168.0.200 port 22: Connection refused



>> > # ip addr
>> quite some output
>> 1: lo  (loopback at inet 127.0.0.1/8)
>> 2: usb0 [...] inet 192.168.0.202/24 brd 192.168.0.255
>> 3: eth0 [...] inet 192.168.0.42/24 brd 192.168.0.255
>
> hmm, your wifi uses the same subnet as the usbconnection.

surprisingly this have change:
root@om-gta02 ~ # ip addre
1: lo: <LOOPBACK,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 16436 qdisc noqueue state UNKNOWN
    link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:00
    inet 127.0.0.1/8 scope host lo
    inet6 ::1/128 scope host
       valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
2: usb0: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast
state UP qlen 1000
    link/ether 00:1f:11:01:a9:a5 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
    inet 192.168.0.202/24 brd 192.168.0.255 scope global usb0
    inet6 fe80::21f:11ff:fe01:a9a5/64 scope link
       valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever

> What does
> route -n
root@om-gta02 ~ # route -n
Kernel IP routing table
Destination     Gateway         Genmask         Flags Metric Ref    Use Iface
192.168.0.0     0.0.0.0         255.255.255.0   U     0      0        0 usb0
0.0.0.0         192.168.0.200   0.0.0.0         UG    8      0        0 usb0


> but if you have working connection from desktop to neo, you just need to run
> iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -s 192.168.0.0/24 -j MASQUERADE echo 1 >/proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
>
> on the desktop, shr should be by default set up for the usb connection,
> unless you start up some wifi connection app which would mess it up,
> however this is what it looks like here (on the moko, wifi turned off):

Do I still have to run
iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -s 192.168.0.0/24 -j MASQUERADE echo 1
>/proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward ?

Still wonder if the problem is in the shr installation. I just flashed
freerunner whit shr, to be able to install gentoo. I never properly
used it to phone or something.  The pre-flashed os (om2008?) have not
even had a command line. But there the phone was working. That I
tested.

Well, that's it for today.
Thanks! And good night.

So long, Elmar

Re: [gentoo-embedded] gentoo installation on openmoko freerunner

[David Ford]

is sshd running?

On 06/15/2011 05:48 PM, elmar bucher wrote:
> root@om-gta02 ~ # ssh elm@192.168.0.200
> ssh: connect to host 192.168.0.200 port 22: Connection refused

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Re: [gentoo-embedded] gentoo installation on openmoko freerunner

[YoYo Siska]

Hmmm, sent this on thursday, but seems it never made it to the
list, so i'm resending it, sorry if it arrives twice ;)

yoyo


On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 12:48:51AM +0300, elmar bucher wrote:
> Hi Yoyo,
> 
> At least a step I cam further...
> 
> > Why not connect it through the usb? It might be slower than wifi, but
> > much more stable and predictable... It's  on wiki:
> > http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/USB_Networking
> 
> I followed the USB Networking instruction.
> elm@firebolt:~$ sudo ip address add 192.168.0.200/24 dev eth1
> elm@firebolt:~$ sudo ip link set dev eth1 up
> elm@firebolt:~$ sudo route add -host 192.168.0.202 dev eth1


is the last line needed because neo uses the same subnet as your
regular network?
If so, i would try to move neo to some other subnet, just to be sure the
prob. isn't there.... ie change 192.168.0.. to say  192.168.47... in
/etc/network/interfaces and reboot/restart eth0


> 
> *** form the desktop  ping  and ssh to the phone works  YEAH!***
> elm@firebolt:~$ ping 192.168.0.202
> PING 192.168.0.202 (192.168.0.202) 56(84) bytes of data.
> 64 bytes from 192.168.0.202: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=1.15 ms
> 64 bytes from 192.168.0.202: icmp_seq=2 ttl=64 time=1.20 ms
> 64 bytes from 192.168.0.202: icmp_seq=3 ttl=64 time=1.26 ms
> 64 bytes from 192.168.0.202: icmp_seq=4 ttl=64 time=1.57 ms
> 64 bytes from 192.168.0.202: icmp_seq=5 ttl=64 time=1.62 ms
> 
> --- 192.168.0.202 ping statistics ---
> 5 packets transmitted, 5 received, 0% packet loss, time 3997ms
> rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 1.150/1.365/1.627/0.197 ms
> 
> elm@firebolt:~$ ssh root@192.168.0.202
> root@192.168.0.202's password:
> Last login: Tue Jan  4 12:33:47 2000 from 192.168.0.200
> root@om-gta02 ~ #
> 
> 
> *** form the phone ping  to the phone works too (even the time looks
> freaking fast), but ssh to the desktop does not work, even I'm sure
> the firewall is down ***
> root@om-gta02 ~ # ping 192.168.0.200
> PING 192.168.0.200 (192.168.0.200): 56 data bytes
> 64 bytes from 192.168.0.200: seq=0 ttl=64 time=0.000 ms
> 64 bytes from 192.168.0.200: seq=1 ttl=64 time=0.000 ms
> 64 bytes from 192.168.0.200: seq=2 ttl=64 time=0.000 ms
> 64 bytes from 192.168.0.200: seq=3 ttl=64 time=0.000 ms
> 64 bytes from 192.168.0.200: seq=4 ttl=64 time=0.000 ms
> ^C
> --- 192.168.0.200 ping statistics ---
> 5 packets transmitted, 5 packets received, 0% packet loss
> round-trip min/avg/max = 0.000/0.000/0.000 ms
> root@om-gta02 ~ #

thats really weird ;)

root@om-gta02 ~ # ping 192.168.0.202
PING 192.168.0.202 (192.168.0.202): 56 data bytes
64 bytes from 192.168.0.202: seq=0 ttl=64 time=0.907 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.0.202: seq=1 ttl=64 time=0.538 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.0.202: seq=2 ttl=64 time=0.448 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.0.202: seq=3 ttl=64 time=0.448 ms

event PCs aren't that fast (cca 0.040ms on mydesktop ;)


> 
> root@om-gta02 ~ # ssh elm@192.168.0.200
> ssh: connect to host 192.168.0.200 port 22: Connection refused
> 
hmm, i'd double check that your ssh is really running, that your
firewall is correct ;)  and that sshd is listenning on all
addresses/interfaces (ie 0.0.0.0) and not only your interface/address you use
for your local network... 

tabletka ~ # netstat -lpn | grep :22
tcp        0      0 0.0.0.0:22              0.0.0.0:*   LISTEN      2985/sshd           
tcp6       0      0 :::22                   :::*        LISTEN      2985/sshd           


it's pretty weird that desktop -> moko connection works and reverse not,
as even for the first one, packets have to be routed from moko to
desktop... unless there's some firewall stuff that allows only outgoing
connections on the desktop or something like that...

> 
> 
> >> > # ip addr
> >> quite some output
> >> 1: lo  (loopback at inet 127.0.0.1/8)
> >> 2: usb0 [...] inet 192.168.0.202/24 brd 192.168.0.255
> >> 3: eth0 [...] inet 192.168.0.42/24 brd 192.168.0.255
> >
> > hmm, your wifi uses the same subnet as the usbconnection.
> 
> surprisingly this have change:
> root@om-gta02 ~ # ip addre
> 1: lo: <LOOPBACK,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 16436 qdisc noqueue state UNKNOWN
>     link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:00
>     inet 127.0.0.1/8 scope host lo
>     inet6 ::1/128 scope host
>        valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
> 2: usb0: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast
> state UP qlen 1000
>     link/ether 00:1f:11:01:a9:a5 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
>     inet 192.168.0.202/24 brd 192.168.0.255 scope global usb0
>     inet6 fe80::21f:11ff:fe01:a9a5/64 scope link
>        valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever

you didn't start wifi, so it isn't turned on and the interface isn't even there...


> 
> > What does
> > route -n
> root@om-gta02 ~ # route -n
> Kernel IP routing table
> Destination     Gateway         Genmask         Flags Metric Ref    Use Iface
> 192.168.0.0     0.0.0.0         255.255.255.0   U     0      0        0 usb0
> 0.0.0.0         192.168.0.200   0.0.0.0         UG    8      0        0 usb0
> 
> 
> > but if you have working connection from desktop to neo, you just need to run
> > iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -s 192.168.0.0/24 -j MASQUERADE echo 1 >/proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
> >
> > on the desktop, shr should be by default set up for the usb connection,
> > unless you start up some wifi connection app which would mess it up,
> > however this is what it looks like here (on the moko, wifi turned off):
> 
> Do I still have to run
> iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -s 192.168.0.0/24 -j MASQUERADE echo 1
> >/proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward ?

heh, some formatting issue, they should be 2 commands... 
but anyway... you need them to make your desktop act as gateway/NAT for
the neo, ie to forward packets to the outside network and back....
but they are not needed for the simple  neo <-> desktop connection

> 
> Still wonder if the problem is in the shr installation. I just flashed
> freerunner whit shr, to be able to install gentoo. I never properly
> used it to phone or something.  The pre-flashed os (om2008?) have not
> even had a command line. But there the phone was working. That I
> tested.

i have a bit more than half a year old shr, never had a problem with the
usb connection...

bye

yoyo

> 
> Well, that's it for today.
> Thanks! And good night.
> 
> So long, Elmar
> 

Re: [gentoo-embedded] gentoo installation on openmoko freerunner

[elmar bucher]

Hi Andrej, Peter, Yoyo, and David,

I was quite in a hurry the last two weeks, that is why I not have
replied. Sorry.

But this weekend finally i got the desktop:freerunner usb networking
running. The crack point was at the desktop linux distro I use
(gNewSens) not at shr.
I list here my solution:

1) David / Yoyo:  is sshd running?
It was not. I had even to install and start it:
elm@firebolt:~$  sudo apt-get install openssh-server
elm@firebolt:~$  sudo /etc apt-get install ssh
elm@firebolt:~$  sudo /etc/init.d/ssh start
elm@firebolt:~$ ps aux | grep -i ssh
root      4950  0.0  0.0   5320   996 ?        Ss   20:28   0:00 /usr/sbin/sshd
elm      6679  0.0  0.0    312   108 pts/0    R+   20:50   0:00 grep -i ssh


2) Yoyo: you often asked me about the subnetwork.
The mayor problem was that the subnet between the freerunner (eth1:
192.168.0.something) and the desktop (eth0: 192.168.0.57) was
overlapping. My solution is to move the eth1 usb connection to the
freerunner form 192.168.0.0/24 to 192.168.202.0/24.
The majority of the needed information I learn from the following pages:
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/USB_Networking
http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/support/2008-August/#1277
http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/support/2008-August/001282.html
http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/support/2008-August/001288.html
http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/support/2008-August/001300.html

In practices it looks like this:
*** on freerunner  ***
root@om-gta02 ~ # /etc/init.d/networking  stop
root@om-gta02 ~ # vi /etc/network/interfaces
[...]
# Ethernet/RNDIS gadget (g_ether)
# ... or on host side, usbnet and random hwaddr
# elm 2011-06-25
auto usb0
iface usb0 inet static
	address 192.168.202.202
	netmask 255.255.255.0
	network 192.168.202.0
	up route add default gw 192.168.202.200 metric 8
	up echo nameserver 208.67.222.222 > /etc/resolv.conf
	up echo nameserver 208.67.220.220 >> /etc/resolv.conf
	down route del default gw 192.168.202.202 metric 8
[...]
root@om-gta02 ~ # /etc/init.d/networking  start


*** on the desktop ***
elm@firebolt:~$ sudo ip address add 192.168.202.200/24 dev eth1
elm@firebolt:~$ sudo ip link set dev eth1 up
elm@firebolt:~$ sudo iptables -A POSTROUTING -t nat -j MASQUERADE -s
192.168.202.0/24
elm@firebolt:~$ sudo -i
root@firebolt:~# echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
elm@firebolt:~# exit
logout
elm@firebolt:~$


3a) smoke test form desktop
elm @firebolt:~$ ping -c 3 192.168.202.202
PING 192.168.202.202 (192.168.202.202) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from 192.168.202.202: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=2.10 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.202.202: icmp_seq=2 ttl=64 time=1.35 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.202.202: icmp_seq=3 ttl=64 time=1.37 ms

--- 192.168.202.202 ping statistics ---
3 packets transmitted, 3 received, 0% packet loss, time 2001ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 1.350/1.607/2.103/0.353 ms

elm@firebolt:~$ route -n
Kernel IP routing table
Destination     Gateway         Genmask         Flags Metric Ref    Use Iface
192.168.0.0     0.0.0.0         255.255.255.0   U     0      0        0 eth0
192.168.202.0   0.0.0.0         255.255.255.0   U     0      0        0 eth1
169.254.0.0     0.0.0.0         255.255.0.0     U     1000   0        0 eth0
0.0.0.0         192.168.0.1     0.0.0.0         UG    0      0        0 eth0

elm@firebolt:~$ ip addr
1: lo: <LOOPBACK,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 16436 qdisc noqueue
    link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:00
    inet 127.0.0.1/8 scope host lo
    inet6 ::1/128 scope host
       valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
2: eth0: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast qlen 100
    link/ether 00:1d:72:92:d1:83 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
    inet 192.168.0.57/24 brd 192.168.0.255 scope global eth0
    inet6 fe80::21d:72ff:fe92:d183/64 scope link
       valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
4: eth1: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast qlen 1000
    link/ether 00:1f:11:01:a9:a6 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
    inet 192.168.202.200/24 scope global eth1


3b) smoke test form freerunner
elm@firebolt:~$ ssh root@192.168.202.202
[...]

root@om-gta02 ~ # route -n
Kernel IP routing table
Destination     Gateway         Genmask         Flags Metric Ref    Use Iface
192.168.202.0   0.0.0.0         255.255.255.0   U     0      0        0 usb0
0.0.0.0         192.168.202.200 0.0.0.0         UG    8      0        0 usb0

root@om-gta02 ~ # ip addr
1: lo: <LOOPBACK,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 16436 qdisc noqueue state UNKNOWN
    link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:00
    inet 127.0.0.1/8 scope host lo
    inet6 ::1/128 scope host
       valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
2: usb0: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast
state UP qlen 1000
    link/ether 00:1f:11:01:a9:a5 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
    inet 192.168.202.202/24 brd 192.168.202.255 scope global usb0
    inet6 fe80::21f:11ff:fe01:a9a5/64 scope link
       valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever

root@om-gta02 ~ # cat /etc/resolv.conf
nameserver 208.67.222.222
nameserver 208.67.220.220

root@om-gta02 ~ # ping -c 3 192.168.202.200
PING 192.168.202.200 (192.168.202.200): 56 data bytes
64 bytes from 192.168.202.200: seq=0 ttl=64 time=0.000 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.202.200: seq=1 ttl=64 time=0.000 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.202.200: seq=2 ttl=64 time=0.000 ms
--- 192.168.202.200 ping statistics ---
3 packets transmitted, 3 packets received, 0% packet loss
round-trip min/avg/max = 0.000/0.000/0.000 ms

root@om-gta02 ~ # ping -c 3 gentoo.org
PING gentoo.org (89.16.167.134): 56 data bytes
64 bytes from 89.16.167.134: seq=0 ttl=53 time=70.000 ms
64 bytes from 89.16.167.134: seq=1 ttl=53 time=60.000 ms
64 bytes from 89.16.167.134: seq=2 ttl=53 time=60.000 ms
--- gentoo.org ping statistics ---
3 packets transmitted, 3 packets received, 0% packet loss
round-trip min/avg/max = 60.000/63.333/70.000 ms


THANKS TO ALL OFF YOU! Thank you for taking care!
Have a great midsummer weekend too, Elmar